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DSeim
Inspiring
April 4, 2018
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Presets a total mess in Lightroom 7.3

  • April 4, 2018
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Adobe work with us here. You just pushed an update that makes a total mess of everyone presets, even though you were notified of problems during the beta. We all like new features but come on. Is this programming school?

First, presets are changed to XML without asking. Ok, I see where they're going with the more compatible format and it has potential. But it's like Adobe did not even bother to see if it worked. Sure favorites are cool, but along with them, we are stuck with even more clutter of default preset folders and no way to remove them even though your customers have been asking for years.

Worse, Presets are randomly out of order inside their folders. It does not even make sense the random they are arranged. It's chaos for the LR organization many of us have developed over the years.

Next, the "Show Lightroom Presets" button in preferences still goes to the old presets folder and the original presets are there but no longer show up in because Lightroom is looking for the converted XML presets that are now in the Camera Raw folder. You didn't even bother to update the button? From what I can tell new presets installed in that official location will not only not show up, there is no way to convert them after the initial update.

I have thousands of photographers using preset packs I design. At this time I'm going to downgrade my working projects and recommend that people do not update until we have a solution for these blatant issues. I'll start tinkering for a temporary solution and everyone, please share if you have any until Adobe fixes this. Thanks.

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Everyone I've summerized the solutions we have found in a video and links to the file tools people have made that workaround the sorting bug (as well as how to downgrade) on my blog if anyone needs help with this... http://seimeffects.com/2018/04/06/lightroom-7-preset-order/

27 Antworten

brianpasko
Participating Frequently
July 19, 2018

Can someone please answer a technical question here:

Under the latest LR version, how do you backup presets?  I can obviously copy all of the xml present files, but they no longer seem to be stored in folders.  How do I backup the folder structure of the presets so if my computer crashes I can restore the presets in the same categories and order that they are now.  It seems that the develop presets folder structure is now stored in some other file?

johnrellis
Legend
July 27, 2018

Under the latest LR version, how do you backup presets?  I can obviously copy all of the xml present files, but they no longer seem to be stored in folders.  How do I backup the folder structure of the presets so if my computer crashes I can restore the presets in the same categories and order that they are now.  It seems that the develop presets folder structure is now stored in some other file?

For develop presets, backup the folders containing them.  The group containing a preset (the "folders" you see displayed in the Presets panel) is actually stored int the preset's .xmp file itself.  LR doesn't care anymore which subfolder the .xmp file is stored in -- it uses the group from inside the .xmp file.

See the free Fix Presets plugin to make the folder structure of your presets reflect their group names and, conversely, make the group names reflect the folder structure.

Known Participant
April 30, 2018

This is a complete mess. I have the latest update and you can't manage presets at all. I've had presets and folders disappear. I moved a lot of presets from within the LR interface, which sort of works. Some moved, but still appeared in the old folder, some didn't move at all. Regardless, after moving, I go into the folder under Camera Raw and everything i moved is gone from the source folder, but none of them are there in the destination folder.

I understand what they are trying to do, but they haven't done it. They broke it, ignored beta testers and released this garbage on us. I would scrap them all and start over, but not sure you can even do that. I'll be over at On1 until they get this mess sorted out.

Participating Frequently
April 25, 2018

Can someone tell me what a double ~ means infront of my old presets? Some have a single and some a double.

Also if I remove the ~ at the front of my old presets will that tell Lightroom to re-convert that to .xmp?

Thanks.

Participating Frequently
April 25, 2018

Jesus!!!! I'm paying for rolling updates with this stupid subscription and they continuously are screwing me!  Note to self: STOP UPDATING! Just STOP!

Participating Frequently
April 24, 2018

I love working in Lightroom, so I'm very grateful to you! And on a blog that I often read a lot of interesting things, for example - Free Lightroom presets for portraits collection http://fixthephoto.com/free-lightroom-presets-for-portraits

Participating Frequently
April 22, 2018

Adobe is a mess. That's what we pay for.

This new update. You can't even delete the default presets.

You can't even rename you own folders so they appear above.

12 useless folders on top to stare at all day when you're using a 'professional' for your profession.

It's an absolute joke. We should all ask for refunds for delivering us this crap again and again.

We are not your betatesters Adobe. You give us a working product. We give you money.

Akash Sharma
Legend
April 24, 2018

Hi All,

We are happy to announce the release of Lightroom 7.3.1 that should fix the presets sorting issue.

To update Lightroom Classic CC to 7.3.1, click "Update" in the Creative Cloud desktop application next to Lightroom Classic CC. See Update Creative Cloud apps

We appreciate your patience and cooperation.

Regards,

Akash

Participant
April 25, 2018

Hi mickspawn,

Please update to the latest version 7.3.1 of Lightroom and your presets will be sorted correctly, so the update from 7.2 to 7.3.1 should work fine.

There was another issue related to the preset conversion which has been worked upon. We have created a documentation to explain what has changed and fixed: Lightroom Classic CC 7.3 not converting all the develop presets (.lrtemplate) to XMP

Let us know the outcome.

Regards,

Akash


There are still default folders at the top above our custom ones that we can't delete or move... those need to go away or at least give us control over them!!!!!

kentmcpherson
Inspiring
April 13, 2018

2 other questions: 

1. What if I have other presets in my Develop Presets folder that were not converted?  i.e. they don't show up in LR CC 7.3 and there is no ~ in front of the file name.

2. If you have different preset packages, they're all lumped into the Develop Presets folder.  Is there any way to identify the creator of the presets to know what goes with what?  There are probably presets I don't want/use anymore. 

Thanks and what a mess. 

kentmcpherson
Inspiring
April 13, 2018

I decided to roll back to 7.2 till they fixed this mess. 

Participant
April 11, 2018

Same problem here. Makes you wonder.

mickspawn
Inspiring
April 11, 2018

why the hell have they still not fixed this a week later... come on

Known Participant
April 11, 2018

I love upgrades and new features but the is the first time I'm downgrading any software, ever. What a mess. Please fix on next release Adobe.

Participating Frequently
April 11, 2018

Same here, first time i was forced do downgrad to be able to work again with a software

Participating Frequently
April 10, 2018

And now I find out that my ability to organize the presets has be tossed out.

I'm not normally one to use profanity, but this update calls for it--lots of it.

DSeim
DSeimAutorAntwort
Inspiring
April 10, 2018

Everyone I've summerized the solutions we have found in a video and links to the file tools people have made that workaround the sorting bug (as well as how to downgrade) on my blog if anyone needs help with this... http://seimeffects.com/2018/04/06/lightroom-7-preset-order/

kentmcpherson
Inspiring
April 13, 2018

Gavin, thank you!!