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Radical Color Cast Shift in Developer Module

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February 28, 2019
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Using Lightroom CC Classic Latest Release, 8.2

Random DNG images show a radical color cast when in Developer Module. Same images when opened in Photoshop directly from Developer Module show no shift and are rendered normally. When I shut LR down, the same images show normally in DEV mode when LR opened again, but invariably the shift appears again. What is going on?

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Correct answer johnrellis

Hi. Thanks! I am sure as you say: it is a preview rendering issue. GPU is turned off.

Sorry to say, I don´t know how to rebuild display profile, or how to make sure it is not a V4 spec profile, as you suggest. For now, I am managing by fooling around with the Navigator zoom options. Cheers! .j.

it is a preview rendering issue.

To use more precise terminology, it could be corruption in the Camera Raw Cache, which is used in Develop. In LR's terminology, "previews" refer to the previews built for use in Library, which are entirely separate and are not used in Develop.

The most reliable way to rule out a corrupt Camera Raw Cache is to clear it, by going to Preferences > Performance and clicking Purge Cache. You won't lose any edits and you'll only take a mild performance hit as LR slowly rebuilds the contents of the cache incrementally as you edit.

GoldingD

Legend

After you verify it is or is not corrupt previews (Library and more to the point Develop, hat tip to johnrellis) and that fails to solve your issue, perhaps a proper reset of your preferences file. Following are links on the why, they how, and notes about what that will do, read them all:

https://lightroomers.com/replacing-the-lightroom-preference-file/745/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bARt-hoCc2Q

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/preference-file-and-other-file-locations---lightroom-6.html

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/recover-catalog-images-resetting-lightroom.html

Jerimiah27402358zhax

Participating Frequently

Unchecking "Use Graphics Processor" works to make the colors match export, library, and develop screen images on two different computers with different brands of graphics cards.

I'd like someone to tell us all how we can have the benefits of hardware acceleration and have accurate colors when developing photos! Is there anyone guru who knows this answer?

Ian Lyons

Community Expert

You've raised the same issue three times already. Please the responses given in https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/completely-different-color-in-library-and-develop-calibration-not-working/td-p/12144769

GoldingD

Legend

Ok, perhaps I missed a previous inquiry on this, just scrolled thru all above, did not see this, and I may have in fact stated the following. But lets go at this again.

For the current exemplar.The image in your last set of screenshots. Accomplish the following as a diagnostic test. note that their will be collateral damage in the form of loosing all develop edits, etc.

Fore the one image, remove it from your catalog. DO not delete it. This will also remove all previews,

Now add it back in to the catalog.

Point is to delete all previews for the one image that is all previews not just the 1:1 or Smart Previews.

Does the image behave? If so, your previews are fubar.

GoldingD

Legend

You might want want to look at this

In your system information, something does not look correct in the GPU section

Graphics Processor Info:

Check OpenGL support: Failed

Vendor:

Version:

Renderer:

LanguageVersion:

Actual GPU not listed. Perhaps this basic laptop uses an integrated graphics card, but should that not be presented in the info?

Please from your OS devices identify your graphics card or chip. And driver version.

Also, as OpenGL support failed I am wondering about the capability of that chip. Mind you, before LR Classic CC v8.2 Adobe support pretty much calls for DirectX not OpenGL on Windows OS, but that needs to be DirectX 12. Niw they apparently want OpenGL v3.3

also view

Adobe Lightroom GPU Troubleshooting and FAQ

GoldingD

Legend

And what camera?

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PeregrînoAuthor

Participating Frequently

Thanks for the help. I have a fairly basic Laptop setup. Use no accelarator. Have used LR for years and have not had this problem until this last release. It seems to be something going on within the DEV MODULE itself. Here are some pics as you requested:

Camera: Panasonic DMC FZ1000

Lightroom Classic version: 8.2 [ 1204643 ]

License: Creative Cloud

Language setting: en

Operating system: Windows 7 - Home Premium Edition

Version: 6.1.7601

Application architecture: x64

System architecture: x64

Logical processor count: 4

Processor speed: 2.2 GHz

Built-in memory: 7331.7 MB

Real memory available to Lightroom: 7331.7 MB

Real memory used by Lightroom: 1698.1 MB (23.1%)

Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 1745.8 MB

GDI objects count: 941

USER objects count: 3167

Process handles count: 1504

Memory cache size: 222.6MB

Internal Camera Raw version: 11.2 [ 134 ]

Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 3

Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX

Camera Raw virtual memory: 1063MB / 3665MB (29%)

Camera Raw real memory: 1083MB / 7331MB (14%)

System DPI setting: 96 DPI

Desktop composition enabled: No

Displays: 1) 1366x768, 2) 1024x768

Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No

Graphics Processor Info:

Check OpenGL support: Failed

Vendor:

Version:

Renderer:

LanguageVersion:

Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic CC

Library Path: C:\Users\PERSONAL\Pictures\Lightroom\Lightroom Catalog-2.lrcat

Settings Folder: C:\Users\PERSONAL\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

Installed Plugins:

1) AdobeStock

2) Facebook

3) Flickr

4) Nikon Tether Plugin

5) SmugMug

Config.lua flags: None

Adapter #1: Vendor : 8086

Device : 116

Subsystem : fc301179

Revision : 9

Video Memory : 64

AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024

AudioDeviceName: Altavoces (Realtek High Definition Audio)

AudioDeviceNumberOfChannels: 2

AudioDeviceSampleRate: 48000

Build: 12.1x4

Direct2DEnabled: false

GL_ACCUM_ALPHA_BITS: 16

GL_ACCUM_BLUE_BITS: 16

GL_ACCUM_GREEN_BITS: 16

GL_ACCUM_RED_BITS: 16

GL_ALPHA_BITS: 8

GL_BLUE_BITS: 8

GL_DEPTH_BITS: 24

GL_GREEN_BITS: 8

GL_MAX_3D_TEXTURE_SIZE: 2048

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 8192

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 8

GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS: 8192,8192

GL_RED_BITS: 8

GL_RENDERER: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family

GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 1.40 - Intel Build 8.15.10.2827

GL_STENCIL_BITS: 8

GL_VENDOR: Intel

GL_VERSION: 3.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.2827

GPUDeviceEnabled: false

OGLEnabled: true

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johnrellisCorrect answer

Legend

Hi. Thanks! I am sure as you say: it is a preview rendering issue. GPU is turned off.

Sorry to say, I don´t know how to rebuild display profile, or how to make sure it is not a V4 spec profile, as you suggest. For now, I am managing by fooling around with the Navigator zoom options. Cheers! .j.

it is a preview rendering issue.

To use more precise terminology, it could be corruption in the Camera Raw Cache, which is used in Develop. In LR's terminology, "previews" refer to the previews built for use in Library, which are entirely separate and are not used in Develop.

The most reliable way to rule out a corrupt Camera Raw Cache is to clear it, by going to Preferences > Performance and clicking Purge Cache. You won't lose any edits and you'll only take a mild performance hit as LR slowly rebuilds the contents of the cache incrementally as you edit.

GoldingD

Legend

How about a new screenshot. This one of that pink one. Screenshot if your entire Lightroom Develop module screen, need to see Navigator preview, history panel, histogram, filmstrip with selected image in view, and of course loupe if image, and at least the basic panel, tone curve panel, and HSL panel in view.

hmm, base on older similar discussions, probably should include a similar screenshot, but from the library module, with loupe instead of grid selected.

GoldingD

Legend

Ok, first up be advised that in Lightroom, the Library and Develop modules use different color space, they also use different previews.

That being said, your exemplars show a lot more difference than that would present. So something is wrong.

A few questions

1. What make/model is your GPU

2. What is your GPU driver version ?

(you can get both from Lightroom’s System Information, in LR click on Help, then System Information)

hmmm, since you have assumedly obtained that system information, probably best to also click on copy, and paste that in a reply.

3. What make/model is your monitor calibration device?

Per Berntsen

Community Expert

First of all, try disabling the GPU. Go to Preferences > Performance, uncheck Use graphics processor.

If that doesn't help, you probably have a defective monitor profile. Try setting the monitor profile to sRGB, see instructions here: http://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-change-my-monitor-profile-to-check-whether-its-corrupted/

If that fixes the issue, you should ideally calibrate your monitor with a hardware calibrator. This will create a new monitor profile that describes your monitor's color response accurately.

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