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RAW+JPEG Imports

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June 19, 2020
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Hi,

I've just completed the upgrade to Lrc 9.3 - so using Lightroom Classic. My camera is a Fujifilm X-T4 and I shoot raw+jpeg and In the general preferences, I've always had the setting "treat JEPG files next to raw files as separate photos" unchecked (and it still is!), however since updating to 9.3, the import process is treating the jpeg file as a separate process.

I inserted a card that I had previously imported and Lightroom recognized all of the jpegs as not having being imported. I processed the card to see what would happen and it re-imported the jpegs with a -2 appended to the file name.

the Fuji is on the latest firmware

Lightroom is running on macOS Catalina 10.15.5

The device is a Macbook Pro 16" 2019 with 64GB ram and AMD Radeon Pro 5300M GPIU

Regards

Gerry

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KDMizzle

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Hello,

I started having the same issue with the EOS R since the Lightroom upgrade on an iMac. I just installed Lightroom on a Macbook Pro and I was not seeing the issue on import (RAWs and JPGs were shown as a single image).

I then setup a Metadata preset to apply on import (similar to what I do on my iMac) and it is now treating the raws and jpgs as separate images. If I turn off the Metadata preset when importing then the RAW and JPG images are treated as one file as desired.

Any chance you are applying metadata or develop settings on import? That might be the issue and if so I think its a bug.

Ken

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mikeb14657210

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Hi Ken,

I've just got my first mac and this was driving me insane. It appeared all settings were the same as my windows laptop but files were treated seperately.

I have a sharpening preset on import and it was just that, switch off/switch on..voila!

A thousand thanks.

Mike.

Just Shoot Me

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Has any one that is having this issue done a reset of the LrC preferences and then tested?

michaelb.photography

Participant

The issue seems to have resolved for me. I did reset preferences and restarted LrC but my situation may have been caused by something else. Let me try to explain.

I had a XQD Card that still had images previously imported to LrC. I had culled and deleted many of those images in my catalog. I took new photos on the QXD card.

I went to import. Even though I had "do not import suspected duplicates" checked, the images I had deleted in LrC where now going to be imported again.

When I went to import, I unselected all, then selected the new images only. It is when I performed this selection process that the view in the Library import screen seem to add the JPEG view next to the (NEF) RAW view.

To work around this all I did was NOT unselect any images and just import ALL the photos on the card again. The upload didn't include duplicates as I indicated but I did have to upload the other files again and delete.

Again, not sure exactly what transpired but in the end my import showed the RAW with sidecar JPEG single image.

I'll add to the post should I learn more about my situation.

Just Shoot Me

Legend

Once you Delete an image in LrC, whether just removing from the catalog or also deleting from disk, those images will be reimported as there is no record of them in the catlaog file anymore. They are Not duplicates as far as LrC is concerned.

Glad you got it worked out. Could of been a corrupted Preferences file. Now if one of the other posters replies back after doing a reset of the preference and the problem ends then we know for sure.

michaelb.photography

Participant

Same issue. macOS Catalina version 10.15.5. LrC 9.3. First import since upgrade. Normally jpeg acts as sidecar in Library and only see one view with NEF+JPEG. Now I have both the JPEG and NEF raw files showing seperately.

Just Shoot Me

Legend

So to both of you.

You are on a Mac with the newest OS X. I'm usiing Windows.

So when the import window comes up it shows both the RAW and the JPG images in the center section?

If that is so for the time being just Sort: by File Type and Uncheck all the JPGs so they don't get imported.

If you want them in the same folder as the RAW files then Manually select and copy them into that same folder using Finder. that is until this problem get solved.

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Gerry KerrAuthor

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So... First off, apologies for not replying sooner - unfortunately, my day job got in the way this week 😞

So I've gone back to basics a bit

- Formatted a card

- Took some photos

- Imported them - everything looked normal

Went out and shot another couple of images without formatting the card

- took some photos

- imported them and the import dialog wanted to re-import all the jpgs ( see image).

The next screen capture shows the bottom section with the new photos

Just to be sure - here is the preferences section

If I let the import go ahead, all of the jpgs in the first capture get a -2 appended to the file name as they are in the library already

Can I also clarify that I do not have 2 cards inserted in the camera so all of the images (RAW+JPG) are stored on the same card and that my setup was working right up until i updated to 9.3

Thanks everyone who took the time to help

Regards

Gerry

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michelh99476754

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I Have the same issue, on MAC OS Catalina 10.15.5

Just Shoot Me

Legend

I have another question.

Are the JPG actually showing up in LrC when you are in the Grid View and have the Sort: set to Capture Time?

Just Shoot Me

Legend

I ask the above question because even with that LrC option unchecked, Treat JPGs as separate files, LR Still Copies the JPG images from the card and places them in the same folder as the RAW files and LrC actually makes a record of them in the LrC database file, the Catlaog file, as being imported but does not Display them in either the Grid view or Film strip. It does display the RAW + Jpg and marks the JPG as a Sidecar file.

Here is a screen shot of the LrC window with some shots I just took of my messy desk and imported them into LrC 9.3. You will see the JPGs are Not displayed and that it is listed as a sidecar file and the File name, as displayed at the top of the grid view thumbnails lists Raw file name and then + JPG. And then a screen shot of File Explorer showing the folder this import got copied to and the JPGs are next to the RAW files.

So the question is are you actually seeing the JPG images in LrC or just in a File Manager window?

When that option is not checked and there are JPG images, with the same file name except for the extension, on the same card as the RAW files LrC has always copied those JPGs into the same folder as the RAW files and entered a record of them in the catalog but does not display them. Also you can't then Import them as LrC knows you already imported them.

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Gerry KerrAuthor

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Hi

They are showing up in grid view and with the older card, even though all the images on the card had been ingested into LrC previously, it re-imported the jpgs again appending a -2 onto the file name

😞

Gerry

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Legend

Are the JPGs on a separate, Second In Camera, SD card? And do you connect the camera directly to the computer or use a card reader.

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Gerry KerrAuthor

Participating Frequently

Hi,

jpgs are on the same card and yes, I'm connecting the camera via USB-C and downloading directly.

Thanks for responding

Gerry

Just Shoot Me

Legend

OK i have to ask again. Are you Sure the JPG aren't on the Second SD Card in the camera?

Fuji, I own 2 of them X-T2 and X-E2, has a setting in the camera to place RAW on one card and JPGs on the other, that is if the camera has 2 card slots. My T2 does and that is an option on the camera.

When the RAWs + JPGs are on 2 separate cards and you connect the camera directly to the computer LrC could be reading both cards and not seeing that the JPGs are the same files as the RAWs.

I also suggext you buy a card reader and stop connecting the camera directly to the computer.