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Carlos De Smet
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April 21, 2023
Question

Screen occasionally flickers when using Denoise

  • April 21, 2023
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Als ik denoise AI gebruik in de laatste versie van LR Classic, dan valt mijn scherm af en toe uit of flikkert het.

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D Fosse
Community Expert
D FosseCommunity Expert
Community Expert
March 30, 2024

I know this is an old thread, but since it was resurrected: I think a little occasional flickering during Denoise is normal and nothing to be concerned about. I get this on two machines, one with a 12 GB RTX 3060, and one with a 16 GB RTX 4060 Ti.

Denoise is as fast as it's supposed to be, and works perfectly on both.

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    A.5F90
    Participant
    March 30, 2024

    I have the same issue when i use denoise or Create Panormamas  "Screen is fickering during process" 

    My GpU card has 12gig rtx3060  my memory  is 64 gig  and i have CPU i9 14900K

    Lightroom Classic version: 13.2 [ 202402141005-bf1aeb84 ]
    License: Creative Cloud
    Language setting: en
    Operating system: Windows 11 - Business Edition
    Version: 11.0.22631
    Application architecture: x64
    System architecture: x64
    Logical processor count: 32
    Processor speed: 3,1GHz
    SqLite Version: 3.36.0
    CPU Utilisation: 0,0%
    Built-in memory: 65298,9 MB
    Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 3788,4MB / 12143,0MB (31%)
    Real memory available to Lightroom: 65298,9 MB
    Real memory used by Lightroom: 28443,9 MB (43,5%)
    Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 36637,7 MB
    GDI objects count: 1122
    USER objects count: 3784
    Process handles count: 4465
    Memory cache size: 712,4MB
    Internal Camera Raw version: 16.2 [ 1763 ]
    Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
    Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
    Camera Raw virtual memory: 13086MB / 32649MB (40%)
    Camera Raw real memory: 13388MB / 65298MB (20%)
     
    Cache1: 
    Preview1- RAM:26,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, DSCF0876.RAF
    Preview2- RAM:26,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, DSCF0967.RAF
    Preview3- RAM:26,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, DSCF0966.RAF
    NT- RAM:78,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, Combined:78,0MB
     
    Cache2: 
    final1- RAM:837,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, DSCF0967.RAF
    final2- RAM:928,0MB, VRAM:168,0MB, DSCF0966.RAF
    final3- RAM:837,0MB, VRAM:0,0MB, DSCF1022.RAF
    T- RAM:2602,0MB, VRAM:168,0MB, Combined:2770,0MB
     
    Cache3: 
    m:712,4MB, n:125,7MB
     
    U-main: 117,0MB
     
    System DPI setting: 96 DPI
    Desktop composition enabled: Yes
    Standard Preview Size: 2560 pixels
    Displays: 1) 2560x1440, 2) 1920x1080, 3) 1920x1200
    Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No
     
    Graphics Processor Info: 
    DirectX: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (30.0.14.7212)
    Init State: GPU for Export supported by default
    User Preference: Auto
     
    Application folder: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic
    Library Path: F:\Pictures\Lightroom\Lightroom Catalog-v13.lrcat
    Settings Folder: C:\Users\Alexandros\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom
     
    Installed Plugins: 
    1) AdobeStock
    2) Flickr
    3) Nikon Tether Plugin
     
    Config.lua flags: None
     
    Adapter #1: Vendor : 10de
    Device : 2504
    Subsystem : 881d1043
    Revision : a1
    Video Memory : 12143
    Adapter #2: Vendor : 8086
    Device : a780
    Subsystem : d0001458
    Revision : 4
    Video Memory : 80
    Adapter #3: Vendor : 1414
    Device : 8c
    Subsystem : 0
    Revision : 0
    Video Memory : 0
    AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024
    AudioDeviceName: $$$/dvaaudiodevice/SystemDefaultAndEffectiveDeviceName=System Default - Speakers (Realtek(R) Audio)#{comment}DVAAU-4201250: Open the audio hardware preferences page.
    AudioDeviceNumberOfChannels: 2
    AudioDeviceSampleRate: 48000
    Build: LR5x120
    Direct2DEnabled: false
    GL_ACCUM_ALPHA_BITS: 16
    GL_ACCUM_BLUE_BITS: 16
    GL_ACCUM_GREEN_BITS: 16
    GL_ACCUM_RED_BITS: 16
    GL_ALPHA_BITS: 0
    GL_BLUE_BITS: 8
    GL_DEPTH_BITS: 24
    GL_GREEN_BITS: 8
    GL_MAX_3D_TEXTURE_SIZE: 16384
    GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 32768
    GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 4
    GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS: 32768,32768
    GL_RED_BITS: 8
    GL_RENDERER: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060/PCIe/SSE2
    GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.60 NVIDIA
    GL_STENCIL_BITS: 8
    GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation
    GL_VERSION: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 472.12
    GPUDeviceEnabled: false
    OGLEnabled: true
     
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      A.5F90
      Participant
      March 30, 2024

      I have to make a correction to my report  ( i can not edit my original post )

      It is only the picture with in Lightroom that flickers not the full screen 

       

       

      GoldingD
      GoldingD
      Legend
      April 21, 2023

      Consider:

      https://youtu.be/tELpPlkXlVE

       

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        Carlos De SmetAuthor
        Participating Frequently
        April 22, 2023

        I installed the last driver and made the adjustments as done in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tELpPlkXlVE

        The problem remains

        Too little memory on my video card or bug in LR Classic??????????

          Keith Reeder
          Keith Reeder
          Participating Frequently
          April 22, 2023

          Unless the new driver has miraculously increased the card's memory from 3gb to 8gb, I think the answer is pretty clear.

            AxelMatt
            Community Expert
            AxelMattCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            April 21, 2023

            The problem with the flickering monitor you see is that your graphic card isn't realsuitable to use Denoise.

            Your card does have only 3 GB of memory. that's not enough.

            Take a look here: Denoise Demystified | Adobe Blog

             

            There you'll find the following:

            ...

            Denoise is by far the most advanced of the three Enhance features and makes very intensive use of the GPU. For best performance, use a GPU with a large amount of memory, ideally at least 8 GB. On macOS, prefer an Apple silicon machine with lots of memory. On Windows, use GPUs with ML acceleration hardware, such as NVIDIA RTX with TensorCores. A faster GPU means faster results. 

            ...

             

            You have to live with it or you have to change your graphic card to a stronger one.

            I've seen the same flickering on my system. My card is nearly the same. I've been using the GTX 1050Ti with 4GB.

             

            My System: Intel i7-8700K - 64GB RAM - NVidia Geforce RTX 3060 - Windows 11 Pro 25H2 -- LR-Classic 15 - Photoshop 27 - Nik Collection 8 - PureRAW 6 - Topaz Photo AI
            Keith Reeder
            Keith Reeder
            Participating Frequently
            April 21, 2023

            My GPU (which, to be fair, isn't exactly state-of-the-art) has 8gb, and I still get the flickering.

             

            Doesn't bother me, but it's certainly there.

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            Carlos De SmetAuthor
            Participating Frequently
            April 21, 2023

            Lightroom Classic-versie: 12.3 [ 202304101834-a085245c ]
            Licentie: Creative Cloud
            Taalinstelling: nl
            Besturingssysteem: Windows 10 - Home Premium Edition
            Versie: 10.0.19045
            Toepassingsarchitectuur: x64
            Systeemarchitectuur: x64
            Aantal logische processors: 8
            Processorsnelheid: 3,6GHz
            SQLite-versie: 3.36.0
            CPU-gebruik: 1,0%
            Ingebouwd geheugen: 32702,0 MB
            Het toegewezen GPU-geheugen dat door Lightroom wordt gebruikt: 64,4MB / 2979,0MB (2%)
            Beschikbaar fysiek geheugen voor Lightroom: 32702,0 MB
            Fysiek geheugen gebruikt door Lightroom: 848,1 MB (2,5%)
            Virtueel geheugen gebruikt door Lightroom: 1083,7 MB
            Aantal GDI-objecten: 682
            Aantal gebruikersobjecten: 2102
            Aantal proceshandelingen: 2334
            Cachegeheugengrootte: 131,5MB
            Interne Camera Raw-versie: 15.3 [ 1451 ]
            Maximumaantal door Camera Raw gebruikte threads: 5
            Camera Raw SIMD-optimalisatie: SSE2,AVX,AVX2
            Virtueel geheugen Camera Raw: 32MB / 16351MB (0%)
            Fysiek geheugen Camera Raw: 33MB / 32702MB (0%)
            Dpi-instelling systeem: 96 dpi
            Bureaubladcompositie ingeschakeld: Ja
            Standaardgrootte voorvertoning: 1920 pixels
            Schermen: 1) 1920x1080
            Invoertypen: Multi-aanraking: Nee, Geïntegreerde aanraking: Nee, Geïntegreerde pen: Nee, Externe aanraking: Nee, Externe pen: Nee, Toetsenbord: Nee

            GPU-info:
            DirectX: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (31.0.15.2802)
            Beginstatus: GPU voor beeldverwerking wordt standaard ondersteund
            Gebruikersvoorkeur: Automatisch

            Toepassingsmap: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Lightroom Classic
            Bibliotheekpad: F:\Dropbox\Dropbox\Afbeeldingen\Lightroom\Cataloog 2021-v12.lrcat
            Map Instellingen: C:\Users\Beheerder\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom

            Geïnstalleerde plug-ins:
            1) AdobeStock
            2) Flickr
            3) HDR Efex Pro 2
            4) Tetheringplug-in voor Nikon

            Config.lua-vlaggen: None

            Adapter 1: Leverancier : 10de
            Apparaat : 1c02
            Subsysteem : 82fc103c
            Revisie : a1
            Videogeheugen : 2979
            Adapter 2: Leverancier : 1414
            Apparaat : 8c
            Subsysteem : 0
            Revisie : 0
            Videogeheugen : 0
            AudioDeviceIOBlockSize: 1024
            AudioDeviceName: $$$/dvaaudiodevice/SystemDefaultAndEffectiveDeviceName=System Default - luidspreker/Hoofdtelefoon (Realtek High Definition Audio)#{comment}DVAAU-4201250: Open the audio hardware preferences page.
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            AudioDeviceSampleRate: 48000
            Build: LR5x19
            Direct2DEnabled: false
            GL_ACCUM_ALPHA_BITS: 16
            GL_ACCUM_BLUE_BITS: 16
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            GL_BLUE_BITS: 8
            GL_DEPTH_BITS: 24
            GL_GREEN_BITS: 8
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            GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 32768
            GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 4
            GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_DIMS: 32768,32768
            GL_RED_BITS: 8
            GL_RENDERER: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB/PCIe/SSE2
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            Carlos De SmetAuthor
            Participating Frequently
            April 21, 2023
            Schermopname_Dnoise.mp4
            AxelMatt
            Community Expert
            AxelMattCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            April 21, 2023

            It seems your GPU isn't suitable with the Denoise function. It's very resource intensive.

            Please provide also a copy of your 'System Info'. This can be get from the LrC Help > System Info menu item.

            There's a copy button in the System Info dialog. Press this button and paste the info into your next forum post.

            Then we can say more.

             

            My System: Intel i7-8700K - 64GB RAM - NVidia Geforce RTX 3060 - Windows 11 Pro 25H2 -- LR-Classic 15 - Photoshop 27 - Nik Collection 8 - PureRAW 6 - Topaz Photo AI
            Ian Lyons
            Community Expert
            Ian LyonsCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            April 21, 2023

            Please provide your 'System Info'. This can be obtained from the Help > System Info menu.

             

            F. McLion
            Community Expert
            F. McLionCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            April 21, 2023

            Aaaand .. your question is?

            You need to supply much more information regarding your system and the photo as CPU, GPU, screen size/resolution, image source and resolution ...

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