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Simulate paper and ink during soft proofing in Lightroom Classic have no effect on the image

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March 12, 2025
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Hello Community. I use Lightroom Classic as my main photo editor and I wish to use it for soft proofing and printing as well. Unfortunately I'm experiencing an issue when trying to soft proof in the develop module. In soft proof mode, when I choose a paper profile and then when I select the "Simulator Paper & Ink" option, it has no effect what so ever on the image in the proof preview. When I toggle "Simulate Paper & Ink" on and off, I see that the proof matte around the image changes according to the selected paper profile just as expected, but no change happens to the image itself.

I have tried everything to solve this issue: selecting different paper profiles, reinstalling Lightroom a couple of times, reverting back to older versions of Lightroom from my current version 14.2, resetting Lightroom preferences several times and also reinstalling my graphics driver in Windows 11. I also tried disabling GPU acceleration in the Lightroom preferences, as well as disabling monitor and destination gamut warnings. Yesterday I chatted with Adobe support to see if they might have a solution but nothing came of it. I'm simply running out of ideas as to how to solve this issue which is why I am now posting this message to you guys in the community. Hope that someone might have an idea about what is going on.

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Martin71433403Author

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Thank you for your suggestion, Per.

The thing is, there are two versions of a Nvidia graphics driver, the game version and the studio version. I have naturally chosen to install the studio version because, according to Nvidia:

"What is a Studio Driver?
If you are a content creator who prioritizes stability and quality for creative workflows including video editing, animation, photography, graphic design, and livestreaming, choose Studio Drivers.".

This makes the graphics driver I have installed on my computer the latest driver, also according to my Nvidia driver update application.

I would very surprised, and not least quite happy, if it makes any difference to the issue at hand if I switch to the game version instead - especially since the Adobe support representatives already tried this. But since I really want this soft proofing issue to get solved, I will, of course try to see what happens when I switch to the Nvidia game driver once more.

Martin71433403Author

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Sorry, Johan was it.

JohanElzenga

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I did not suggest the Game Ready driver, I thought your driver wasn't up to date. I deleted that comment shortly after that, because I found I was mistaken.

-- Johan W. Elzenga

Martin71433403Author

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JohanElzenga

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-- Johan W. Elzenga

Per Berntsen

Community Expert

If the image doesn't change, it means that the colors in the image are inside the gamut of the printer profile - it's a good thing.

So, you should get a print very close to what you see on screen.

Martin71433403Author

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Thank you for your response, Per. Technically you are absolutely right. It just doesn't seem possible to me, that all my images should be inside the gamut of the printer profile no matter what kind of paper I choose to simulate during soft proofing. I think you should always be able to see at least a tiny change in the image when toggling "Simulate Paper & Ink" on and off - a small change in brightness or something. But I don't... not at all.

I also tried exporting the same image to Photoshop to test how the simulation of paper during soft proofing would behave, and in Photoshop, it works as expected. When selecting a profile for printer and paper under "Customize Proof Condition", and toggling on and off the option to simulate the paper, the image changes instantly to reflect the nature of the selected paper. That is what I wish would happen in Lightroom as well.

Martin71433403Author

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You could try this: create a brand new catalog, import one image and see if soft proof and simulating paper works as it should. If it does, then your problem is the catalog itself.

Great point, Johan. I did try opening up another small catalog I haven't used much, to see if it by any chance would work better in another catalog. But the problem was unfortunately the same. It is worth a try, though, to see if creating a new catalog from scratch makes any difference - even though I don't have much faith that it will. I will post the result here.

It would be nice to at least get an indication of what could be causing this problem.

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