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Inspiring
May 30, 2022
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smart collection criteria

  • May 30, 2022
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regarding smart collections, what in the heck goes into the box when the export option is selected as shown in the screenshot?  I also tried selection "starts with" and am confused over what it's looking to start with.  I tried filename, dates, other things and always the result was an empty collection.  I can find NO documentation on this.

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Correct answer Ian Lyons

The point others are making is that the 'Export' item in your list is not present in their list nor is it documented. The same applies to 'Published' and 'Settings'. Therefore, the fact that the three items are listed in your copy of LrC and not other users who've responded to your original query suggests that they've been added to the list via some third party plug-in or script!

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JP Hess
Inspiring
May 30, 2022

Check with the developer of the plug-in to see if they have criterion for that filter. Obviously, Adobe doesn't have such.

Inspiring
May 30, 2022

AAARRRRGGHH!  I'm not interested in searching regarding any plug-in.  Plug-ins entered the conversation by another explanation.  I was trying to find a useful way to use this exported feature of a smart collection, that's all.  Nothing whatsoever to do with plug-ins, but I gather from earlier answer that it's only useful for plug-ins which makes it totally not useful for me.

dj_paige
Legend
May 30, 2022

As I said above, you have totally misunderstood. Please read my message above. https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/smart-collection-criteria/m-p/12974264#M276399

dj_paige
Legend
May 30, 2022

"Exported" appears because you have a specific plug-in installed into Lightroom Classic that produces that option. It is not available to me (or anyone else without that plug-in installed).

 

What plug-ins do you have installed?

Inspiring
May 30, 2022

If I understand you correctly, that's disappointing for sure and makes the "exported" option virtually useless.  Adobe should somehow label or make clear that the "exported" feature ONLY applies to plug-ins.  I have several plug-ins installed and fail to see how an exported search based on them would be of any use. 

So, you're telling me that when I set the smart collection rule for "exported", then "isn't empty", and I  get a result of 4605 images, that means that of all the images I've exported (many more than 4605), that 4605 of them had some sort of plug-in used?  What then am I being told when I set the rule for "is empty" and get a result of almost my whole catalog?  What good is that?  I've not used plugins on my entire catalog!  Seems like bottom line is I'm S.O.L for utilizing this export feature for anything useful.  Not an answer I was hoping for but thanks for the help and now I can go on with other work.  

dj_paige
Legend
May 30, 2022

If I understand you correctly, that's disappointing for sure and makes the "exported" option virtually useless. Adobe should somehow label or make clear that the "exported" feature ONLY applies to plug-ins. I have several plug-ins installed and fail to see how an exported search based on them would be of any use.

 

You have misunderstood. Exported does not APPLY to plug-ins; whatever it does will apply to all of your photos regardless; it appears because you have installed a certain plug-in. What plug-ins do you have installed?

 

JP Hess
Inspiring
May 30, 2022

Is exported something that you entered as any searchable text?

Inspiring
May 30, 2022

If you mean literally the word "exported", no I did not as it seems redundant to put exported there when one is searching for export as chosen from the dropdown.  What I am trying to learn is what criteria can be used to limit define the export smart collection.

My first puzzle is “what is or is not empty” as regards an export.  I made a test smart collection and first used “export isn’t empty” as shown here

 

 

The result was 4605 images.  I then changed the criteria to “export is empty” and the number went to 589,771 which is almost my whole catalog of 594,376.  So I guess LR somehow knows if a file has been exported.  Great except, when I activate the “isn’t empty” it gives a smart collection of 4605 and when I look at the images, the collection cannot contain all of the images I’ve exported simply because I exported some over the past week, none of which are there.  So what is the trigger for exported empty or not?

 

Moving on from that is what led me to try and find help with the additional exported rules which have descriptions such as "contains words", "starts with", etc.  What is it looking to start with or what words to contain????? 

I’ve tried using the “contains words” putting in dates & file names – no luck.  I tried using “starts with” using the first characters of file names – no luck.  What is it looking to see what it starts with?

No matter what I put in the last field to the right, the result is zero files selected.

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
May 30, 2022

I don't even see an option for "Exported"; where did you find it? 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Inspiring
May 30, 2022

it's one of the criteria options in the smart collection dropdown, see above screen grab

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
May 30, 2022

I don't see the very first option anywhere (Exported). Hence my question. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
josephlavine
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 30, 2022
Inspiring
May 30, 2022

Thanks for trying.  I appreciate your time but that article does not cover the export option and is no help.  That's what I meant when I said I could find no documentation.  Lots of info on the most basic stuff like stars and colors, but nothing regarding export criteria.