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February 22, 2025
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I recently noticed that ARW files imported to Lightroom Classic 14.2 from my new Sony A1 ii are not displaying blues correctly and are also looking very washed out. In both library and develop modes the bottom thumbnail scroll is displaying the colors correctly until I select a photo to develop. At that point both the main image and the thumbnail shift towards a very green hue. This isn't happening on any images I'm importing from my A7RV. It is very noticeable on blue sky images. Once the image has been deselected for a few moments, the thumbnail reverts to the correct color.

I dont believe it's the camera causing the issue, as my settings have been double checked and mirror those of the A7RV. Furthermore, this is a new issue.

I've also used the DNG converter and am having the same issue with all DNG's from the A1 ii

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Barry

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Correct answer mathieu323314395hg5

I can't access your google drive link. Can you repost?

@lhglhgl No need, the latest version of lightroom fixes the problem

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mathieu323314395hg5

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Hello, since version lightroom 14.2 the color of the raw files on the Sony A1 II is completely degraded and that makes the edition more complicated whereas on my Sony A7 IV no problem,

on the photos I provide, the greens are completely wrong and don't correspond to reality compared to my Sony A7 IV.

I've tried lightroom version 14.1 and the Sony A1 II files are perfectly interpreted! what's been going on since february, several people have been contacting you to make a fix and on the Reddit forum several people have been alerting you to this problem and no one has done anything since version 14. 2. no problem on capture one the A7IV and Sony A1 II files match like two drops of water.

the attached photos were used with the same lens (Sony 24-70 GM II) with the same iso speed etc. I'm on Mac OS 15.5 with lightroom 14.4 on a MacBook Pro M3 MAX.

Ian Lyons

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There's already a lengthy thread on this issue. I'll merge your post into that thread.

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mathieu323314395hg5

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I investigated this in some detail, also observing a significant difference between LR 14.1 and 14.2 for your sample Sony A1 II as well as for sample raws for that camera from dpreview.com. I was starting to file a bug report until I noticed this:

I think the root cause is that LR 14.1 provided "preliminary support" for the A1 II, while LR 14.2 provided "final support", according to the Camera Raw supported cameras page:

Using dcpTool, I compared the camera profiles from LR 14.1 and 14.2, (Sony ILCE-1M2 Adobe Standard.dcp), and they are indeed much different.

Thus, it's pretty clear that the change in LR 14.2 was intentional. Maybe the engineer made a mistake redoing the profile for 14.2. But I've observed over the years that Adobe rarely revisits profiles unless there's an egregious mistake. If Adobe redid the profiling, would they come out with the same result, indicating it wasn't a mistake but rather a property of the Adobe Standard profiling? I don't know.

Moving forward, I think you have four options:

- Continue to try to get Adobe's attention and ask they recheck the Adobe Standard profile for the A1 II. That seems lower-probability to me, having participated in this forum for 15 years, but maybe you'll make progress.

- Use the Calibrite Profiler Camera Calibration module with a $99 ColorChecker target to produce custom profiles that satisfy your taste. See calibrite.com.

- Use the Creative Cloud app to install LR 14.1. Copy the camera profile "Sony ILCE-1M2 Adobe Standard.dcp" and save it away. Reinstall LR 14.4 and replace its version of that file with the one you saved away. Do that for every future release (ugh). I don't know if using the 14.1 .dcp file with 14.4 will produce the same results as in 14.1 -- it may be that the Camera Raw engine changed also.

- Use the camera-matching profile Camera ST, which seems to match the camera's standard JPEG rendering pretty well (that's the intent of camera-matching profiles). As has been mentioned before, the Sony A1 II's JPEG renderings are more saturated than LR 14.1's Adobe Color (which is true for many cameras).

Using a sample A1 II raw downloaded from dpreview.com, here's the JPEG preview embedded in the raw compared with LR 14.4 with the Camera ST profile:

The blue numbers, green jersey, green grass, and orange line marker all match pretty well, though the line marker in the LR Camera ST version is a little brighter.

you're a genius, I recovered on my other mac the dcp 14.1 file of the sony A1 II and it works on 14.4 as on the 14.1 I tried the photo I sent you of the green bush and there is no difference with the 14.1 version but none at all

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patrikk4249813

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This problem is not solved! Adobe chat asked me to file a bug, please confirm here: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/lrd-8-3-and-lrc-14-3-color-profiles-not-working-for-sony-a1-2-ilce-1m2/m-p/15359437#M103907

dj_paige

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I recently noticed that ARW files imported to Lightroom Classic 14.2 from my new Sony A1 ii are not displaying blues correctly and are also looking very washed out

By @Barry36212844cdld

Does this happen in the Library Module or the Develop Module? If it happens in the Library module only, please try this: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-change-my-monitor-profile-to-check-whether-its-corrupted/

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Barry36212844cdldAuthor

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It happens only in the Develop module. I’ve also toggled between multiple screens to rule that out. It seems as if the white Balance and tint are off. A quick adjustment of two sliders in develop can correct it, but there should be no reason that the camera (shooting in raw only), the library module, and even the photo in develop for the first split second is fine, and then it “on its own” noticeably shifts towards green tint.

Note: I also went back to standard presets as well as uninstalling and pre-installing lightrooom Classic. No resolution whatsoever. And all images coming from my A7RV are completely normal.

I’m stumped.

johnrellis

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@Barry36212844cdld: "It happens only in the Develop module."

That's often a sign of an incompatible or corrupted display profile, not uncommon on Windows. Did you try the quick test described in the link that dj_paige posted above?

johnrellis

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"At that point both the main image and the thumbnail shift towards a very green hue. ... Once the image has been deselected for a few moments, the thumbnail reverts to the correct color."

As a first troubleshooting step, upload a couple of raws that have that problem to Wetransfer, Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar free service and post the sharing link here. We can see if the issue occurs on other LR installations or is specific to yours.

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Barry36212844cdldAuthor

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I will do that next time I’m at my computer. Thanks.

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