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White Balance issue newest Lightroom update?

Community Beginner ,
Nov 12, 2022 Nov 12, 2022

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On the newest lightroom classic app, the white balance doesn't upload correctly on every photo, so when copying a preset and pasting - the white balance is different.

 

 

Im so confused and don't know if this is a me error or a bug? What am i doing wrong here...

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Community Expert ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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Check the preset and make sure it's not copying the white balance “As Shot”.

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.0.1, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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I have it copying the CUSTOM, but even before the preset, the whitee balance is at 5320, and the next photo the white balance is at 0

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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The temp and tint is what isnt copying correvtly, for for in depth explanation

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Community Expert ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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You stated “White balance is at “0”. Is that image a tiff or jpeg?

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.0.1, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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Im confused why that would matter, the photos are in the same sequence when i upload. One photo will have the correct white balance and temp, tint when uploaded then the next photo take immediately after uploads and does not have the same white balance or temp, and tint set.

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Community Expert ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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It matters a lot, actually. A raw file does not have a white balance yet, so in Lightroom you set the white balance. You set the Temperature to a certain value in degrees Kelvin. A TIFF or a JPEG does already have a 'baked in' white balance, so with these images Lightroom can only make a Temperature adjustment. That's why you'll see a zero adjustment rather than an 'as shot' Kelvin value. And that means you cannot use the same WB preset for raw and tiff/jpeg, because the presets have to do different things.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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LEGEND ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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WB in a raw vs. a JPEG is vastly different, which is why you were asked. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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The white balance isnt transfering on a set of photos. The temp and tint will not copy and paste the same on every photo. I have updated my computer, and lightroom classic and still no solution.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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This isn't working for me either (and note the GUI bug of the check boxes at the top):

Copy.jpg

Command-Shift P (or menu item) doesn't work from the above. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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Mac OS 12.6.1

LrC 12.0.1

 

I am not seeing this issue in testing. 

 

  1. Set Temp to 5000
  2. Set Tint to 10
  3. Copy [Cmd] [C]
  4. Select only White Balance
  5. Go to new Image
  6. [Cmd] [ V ]
  7. Go to next image 
  8. [Cmd ] [ V ]
  9. Repeat via Settings>Copy or Settings Paste on Menu
  10. Repeat via Right Click Context Menu

 

End result on 5,7,9, 10 is the correct pasted values. 

 

Moving back to Discussions

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Community Expert ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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@Rikk Flohr: Photography 

 

This thread should be merged with https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/white-balance-issue-newest-lightroom-up... as it's from the same author and the same issue.

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Community Expert ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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"The white balance isnt transfering on a set of photos...."

If the "set" is several photos selected on the Film-strip in the Develop Module, then I find that Paste [Ctrl+V] will only copy the WB (items checked in the Copy dialog)  to the 'Most Selected' photo, not the entire 'set' of selected photos.

To Copy to all selected photos I turn on [Auto-Sync] before I [Ctrl+V].

 

Regards. My System: Lightroom-Classic 14.0, Photoshop 26.0, ACR 17.0, Lightroom 8.0, Lr-iOS 9.0.1, Bridge 15.0.0, Windows-11.

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Community Expert ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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The Author stated in the initial post. “ On the newest lightroom classic app, the white balance doesn't upload correctly on every photo, so when copying a preset and pasting - the white balance is different.“

I am not privy to the preset, however from the checks I have made the Copy / Paste option is not functioning as expected, the copied settings, WB,  basic edits, Auto-tone, is only applied to the most selected image, including a rendered image like jpeg. On my system I have not tested on Windows.

 

As far as I have experienced Sync and Auto-Sync function as expected.

As does the “ Previous “ button, in the Develop button for applying edits.

 

 

 

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.0.1, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 13, 2022 Nov 13, 2022

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@DdeGannes wrote, "the Copy / Paste option is not functioning as expected, the copied settings, WB,  basic edits, Auto-tone, is only applied to the most selected image"

 

Were you in Loupe view (Develop or Library) or Grid view?  Remember that in Loupe view, doing the Library menu command Photo > Develop Settings > Paste Settings or the Develop menu command Settings > Paste Settings will only affect the most-selected photo.  

 

(However, if you right-click a selected photo in the filmstrip and do Develop Settings > Paste Settings, it will apply to all the selected photos. Go figure.)

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Community Expert ,
Nov 14, 2022 Nov 14, 2022

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@John R Ellis,

I did the following while focusing on the Author's original post, using the Develop module, and images selected in the filmstrip.

I choose a folder with 4 images, 3 raw and one jpeg. Using the history returned all the images to the import settings.

1. Selected the first image and applied several edits as displayed in the screen capture below.

2. Clicked the copy button in the lower left corner, and in the popup selected all.

3. Selected the other three images and clicked on the paste button.

4. Result, the edits only get applied to the most selected image, the other two no edits are applied.

 

Settings pasted.Settings pasted.Selects edits as per history panelSelects edits as per history panelFirst image selected edits appliedFirst image selected edits applied

 

 

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.0.1, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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Community Expert ,
Nov 14, 2022 Nov 14, 2022

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If you are in the Develop module, then 'paste settings' will only be applied to all selected images if you have 'Auto Sync' turned on. You probably forgot to do that.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Nov 14, 2022 Nov 14, 2022

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At Johan, I can't recall ever being aware that Auto-Sync had anything to do with Copy / Paste.

Thanks for that info.

PS. Turning on Auto Sync and using Copy / Paste ( the button in the left bottom area) does not work for me.

 

As I started in an earlier post Sync and Auto Sync work as expected.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.0.1, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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Nov 14, 2022 Nov 14, 2022

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This is what I am referring to, the Copy / Paste buttons.

Screenshot 2022-11-14 at 8.48.13 AM.png

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.0.1, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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Nov 14, 2022 Nov 14, 2022

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Ok so it appears the Copy / Paste buttons only copy settings to one image.

Is this functioning as designed?

 

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.0.1, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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Nov 14, 2022 Nov 14, 2022

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Ok so it appears the Copy / Paste buttons only copy settings to one image.

Is this functioning as designed?

 

Yes!

 

As Johan advised, with 'Auto Sync' enabled the settings should be applied to all selected images. I just checked on three Mac's and it works as expected.

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LEGEND ,
Nov 14, 2022 Nov 14, 2022

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Auto Sync is dangerous -- it's safer to use one of these methods:

 

1. Right-click one of the selected photos in the filmstrip and do Develop Settings > Paste Settings.

 

2. Switch to Grid view, do the paste, switch to Develop.

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Nov 14, 2022 Nov 14, 2022

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At madison, in your first post,  you stated "On the newest lightroom classic app, the white balance doesn't upload correctly on every photo, so when copying a preset and pasting - the white balance is different."

 

If you are using the Copy / Paste buttons in the Develop Module lower left in the window then what you are experiencing is as designed. The Copy / Paste button only applies the settings to one image. See the screen captures for more info.

Screenshot 2022-11-14 at 8.48.13 AM.pngPage368-MissingFAQ.png  

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.0.1, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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