P: Add Liquify Tool

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LEGEND ,
Oct 03, 2013 Oct 03, 2013

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Please, oh please, add a simple liquify or warp tool to the Q panel! Wedding photographers adore Lightroom, but round-tripping 1500 photos over to CC just to give errant armpits and dress straps a five-second cleanup is an enormous bog. Lightroom, I love you. This is all I ask to make my world complete. Please, we beg of you, let us move some pixels!

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LEGEND ,
Sep 03, 2015 Sep 03, 2015

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I completely agree - liquify in Lightroom and the clone stamp would be amazing! I know that there is the clone and heal but it is no where near as good as the photoshop version.

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New Here ,
May 02, 2016 May 02, 2016

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yes pls add this

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Contributor ,
May 03, 2016 May 03, 2016

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Adding liquify to Lightroom would save me a TON of time. Most of the time, I just need to slim an arm or two here and there. It would also save a bunch of disk space and allow me to keep my library in DNG format.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 15, 2017 Jun 15, 2017

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Add a liquify tool like in Photoshop. And set up the patch tool like in Photoshop, the healing brush.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 06, 2018 Dec 06, 2018

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Lightroom feature request: Liquify! It's the only thing I take photos into CS for anymore. If I had a little liquify adjustment brush in LR, my life would be complete.

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New Here ,
Jan 03, 2019 Jan 03, 2019

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SAME!!!! PLEASE oh PLEASE! I have been asking for a Liquify tool in Lightroom for years!!!!!

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New Here ,
Jan 03, 2019 Jan 03, 2019

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PLEASE! I have been requesting a Liquify Tool in Lightroom for YEARS! I am a pro, mainly shooting Boudoir, been an Adobe customer for 10+ years. The only thing I have ever asked for is this feature. It would save soooo much time! Like just now when I tried to batch open 15 images from Lightroom to Photoshop, just to nip & tuck with the Liquify tool, and crashed my computer. Lost a LOT of time troubleshooting with Tech support. 
Please ADOBE, I give you a LOT of my money. I know there are thousands of others who want this too. Please listen to your customers and give us what we NEED! 

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 03, 2019 Jan 03, 2019

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AND... if in Lr Classic, then in Camera Raw too! 😉 

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LEGEND ,
Jan 18, 2019 Jan 18, 2019

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Thanks! 

[mod note - removed unrelated link - VB]

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LEGEND ,
Mar 22, 2019 Mar 22, 2019

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+1

PLEASE!

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Explorer ,
Mar 22, 2019 Mar 22, 2019

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I really really really wish there was a Liquify Tool inside LR Classic CC.  For the life of me, it simply doesn't make any sense that this extremely useful tool is not present in LR still after all these versions.  When batching hundreds of photos (Wedding Photographers have been asking this for years), it's insane to have to open so many photos inside PS only to do minor Liquify touch-ups. 

I just don't understand why it's still not present in LR.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 22, 2019 Mar 22, 2019

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Well, it's not in there because probably only very few people want it in there, wedding photographers being a small percent of the total LR user base (and probably not all wedding photographers need it). In all my years of reading this forum, I have never seen anyone express an interest in having liquefy in Lightroom.


Also, please note that LR struggles with local adjustments on some hardware, I'm sure liquefy would be similar, or worse.

Nevertheless, if you want to submit a feature request, you can do so at: Lightroom Classic CC | Photoshop Family Customer Community​ By the way, a search at that link turns up zero requests for liquify to be added to LR.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Mar 22, 2019 Mar 22, 2019

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I'm not the smartest when it comes to Lightroom. However, I know that Lightroom is a nondestructive editing tool. The master image is never modified, and my thinking is that the liquefy tool would require pixel modification. That is something that it seems to me is where Photoshop would be required.

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Explorer ,
Mar 22, 2019 Mar 22, 2019

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I am not a Wedding Photographer myself, and I certainly could use the Liquify Tool.  I produce a lot of content for the web, and this tool would be extremely useful directly in LR. It would speed up the processing of the photos a LOT.

About Non-Destructive raw images, LR already does local modifications that will require pixels change, like the healing brush. I don't see why previews could not show Liquify modifications, and then apply that to the final exported image.  Other Raw Editors are already offering that tool, surely it is possible.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 22, 2019 Mar 22, 2019

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"surely it is possible" is not the issue, and not debatable, yes it is possible. The issue, as always, is: does Adobe want to do this? I think that answer is clear as well, based on Adobe's modifications to Lightroom so far, they do not want to do this.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 22, 2019 Mar 22, 2019

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Here's the existing feature request: Lightroom Classic: Add a simple liquify or warp tool | Photoshop Family Customer Community . Eleven people have voted for it in the past five years, making it one of the less popular requests.

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Explorer ,
Mar 24, 2019 Mar 24, 2019

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Eleven people have voted for it in the past five years, making it one of the less popular requests.

I highly doubt that the majority of LR users are represented on those feature request votes...  I'm pretty sure the majority of people don't even know there is a feature request forum where people can go vote for tools and features. 

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LEGEND ,
Mar 24, 2019 Mar 24, 2019

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The feedback forum gives a rough indication of how different feature requests compare in popularity. Users get directed there from many different sources: this forum and many other third-party forums, Adobe customer support, Adobe Web site and social media.  Indeed most users don't know the feedback forum exists, but it still gives a useful sampling of user opinion.

For comparison, here are the the ten most popular requests from the last 8 years:

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Mar 24, 2019 Mar 24, 2019

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Adobe would probably be fine adding Liquify. But it's never that simple, and it's never just because of user demand. These are my words only and not Adobe's, but the way these things tend to work is that Liquify isn't in there yet because:

  • Spot Healing is already notoriously slow when you add a lot of it to an image. Probably because of the requirement to render it from raw. But Liquify requires even more calculation than spot healing because it's freeform deformation, more complicated than a lens correction deformation or a regular warp mesh (like Wave Warp or Fisheye Warp in Photoshop). There's probably a lot of potential for Liquify to be very slow in Lightroom. So Adobe may not want to add it until they can make it work fast enough on raw files. Liquify in Photoshop doesn't need to involve the additional raw rendering step.
  • Liquify isn't the only great idea to add to Lightroom. Even if Liquify was obvious and popular, it needs to fight its way past the long list of other potential features to add, which are evaluated on a wide range of criteria that we as users may or may not be thinking about (long term strategic direction, competitors' features, mobile compatibility…).

So the question isn't just "can it be done" or "Photoshop does it so it's done." The question is "Can it be done with acceptable performance on raw files, and is it more important than the other stuff in the new feature queue?" The fact that we haven't seen Liquify yet doesn't mean it'll never happen, but every time Adobe evaluates candidates for new features, Liquify will always be going up against those other candidates. It could be a while before it makes the cut for an upcoming new version, or it might never make it if it's always beaten by other competing potential features.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Mar 24, 2019 Mar 24, 2019

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Conrad is right. There is no way that Adobe could program a liquify tool in the raw pipeline in Lightroom/ACR that would have even remotely useful performance without completely redoing the imaging pipeline to work completely differently. You just have to look at the not very good performance of spot healing and brushes in Lightroom. Liquify would have to work in a very similar manner but with way more complex math.

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Explorer ,
Mar 25, 2019 Mar 25, 2019

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I hear what you guys are saying.  All I know however is I've seen it in other applications, so, clearly it is possible.  Surely there would be a way to apply it to a preview image and use the preview image as cache instead of having to re-render all the calculations every time from the raw to display the liquify.  As a matter of fact, I would venture and say I don't understand why Healing Brush is still slow in 2019 and why they haven't figured out yet a workaround involving preview images. 

For instance, here's a solution I'm thinking off the top of my head:
If Liquify would be too intensive on the current Raw rendering architecture, then they could add the tool as a "LAST EDIT TOOL".  Meaning, once all your calibrations are done with LR Tools, then you could use the Liquify Tool. Once you start using it, the tool would be applied on a preview image of the rendered raw. That preview is already rendered, since we already see an image with our tool modifications.  So basically, as soon as you start using the Liquify Tool, LR could create a VIRTUAL COPY of your image on which we apply the Liquify.  At least it would save us all the time it takes to render the raw to TIF towards PS, then opening the Liquify tool, then saving back. 

That's just an idea of a possibility.  I'm sure there would be other ways to include Liquify in a streamlined fashion in LR.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Mar 25, 2019 Mar 25, 2019

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monstredeminuit  wrote

I hear what you guys are saying.  All I know however is I've seen it in other applications, so, clearly it is possible.

Just curious, which other raw editing applications have a Liquify-like tool?

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Explorer ,
Mar 26, 2019 Mar 26, 2019

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Conrad+C  wrote

Just curious, which other raw editing applications have a Liquify-like tool?

I was under the impression ACDSEE supported that feature. I just installed the trial, and noticed that in order to use the Liquify tool, it renders the image into its own editing app, then saves it back.

I thought ON1 was doing it, but it doesn't seem to do it yet.

Well, it appears it is not an easy thing to implement after all in a RAW editing platform like LR. However, I would still be happy with an in-between solution where a render would be created within LR, so that I wouldn't have to launch PS, then launch the Liquify Tool, with every single photo. I'm sure there would be a way to do this.

Anyhow, I understand not everyone is hot on having a Liquify toll within LR...  But I'm one of them, and it certainly would make my life much easier if that tool was present.

Cheers!

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LEGEND ,
Jun 27, 2019 Jun 27, 2019

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Jun 27, 2019 Jun 27, 2019

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Not likely. XMP has to store any edits and Liquify actually renders changes. I don't see it happening.

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