P: Better keyword management

Forum|Forum|14 years ago
April 1, 2011
149 replies
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How about some better support for keyword management. It's very basic now. I would like to do the following tasks:- Delete multiple keywords at once. Not all plugins do handle hierarchy keywords well and add all the keywords to the root level. It's a tedious task to delete them one by one.- Search for duplicates.- Merge keywords. With lots of tricks, it can be done, but it's so inefficient.- Import keywords from within any level in the keyword hierarchy. Now you can only import keywords to the root level.- And for now last but most important: Real external editing of the keyword list. Moving keywords around and doing real heavy reorganization is difficult in LR. I would like to have an editing option like exporting and when reimported all changes are reflected in LR.

johnrellis

Legend

LR 13 finally provides enough functionality for plugins to provide batch (bulk) editing of keywords. The latest version of the Any Tag plugin has the ability to export keywords and their attributes to a .csv text file, edit the file, and import the changes back into the catalog. You can edit the file in Excel, Google Sheets, or a text editor, changing keyword attributes and names, adding and deleting keywords, and rearranging the keyword hierarchy.

So if you want to change the Include On Export attribute for all or some of your keywords, Any Tag gives a straightforward way to do it.

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mastix

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I have used the plugin Find and replace to add some IPTC data to my keywords. I don't know why but when i exported them I say that this keywords did not appear on the exported files. I checked the export characteristics of those, and they all have the check include on export disabled. I can change it to enable but only one by one. With hundreds of files this is very tedious, with thousands impossible.

Is there any way to check that box at one of many selected files, or the one by one is the only route. If so, I would love to see in Lightroom the possibility to batch change the condition of selected keywords. (export, synonims etc). One by one does not seem very effective.

johnrellis

Legend

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Unfortunately, there is no way to batch-edit keywords -- it's been requested many times in the past.

"I have used the plugin Find and replace to add some IPTC data to my keywords. I don't know why but when i exported them I say that this keywords did not appear on the exported files."

You can enable the Include On Export attribute for keywords created by the Search Replace Transfer plugin. Do File > Plug-in Manager, select the plugin, and make sure these options are checked:

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BlueRanger

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That's one trick I've been relying on, but I do mainly travel & landscape and it's not quite as effective when you're dealing with things like place names which often contain multiple common words. Another thing I'll do is temporarily modify one tag with an extra word so it sorts near the other one, then remove it again once the move is done.

johnrellis

Legend

I agree that keyword management could be much better. But a tip for reorganizing large keyword lists: In the Keyword List panel's Filter Keywords box, type the keyword you want to drag to and the keyword you want drag:

In this example, only keywords containing the string "people" or the string "richard" will be displayed. Now it's easy to drag "Richard III" to "People" without waiting for the panel to scroll painfully slowly.

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BlueRanger

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My problem is that I used Lightroom for many years before discovering the keyword hierarchy features, and I suspect that's not a unique experience. Now that I know how much easier I could have made things if I had known how it worked from the beginning, I'm finding it very unwieldy trying to go back and organize my existing, lengthy flat list into a useful hierarchy. It's not the comprehensive fix that I or a lot of others want, but one simple (I think) addition would be the ability within the Edit Keyword Tag dialog to specify a containing keyword from the existing list. This would eliminate a lot of drag-and-dropping when the two keywords are not close together alphabetically.

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Harmonious_grace1587

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I'm currently checking out alternatives, as painful as it may be...

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Louie Sherwin

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Ever hopeful...

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FeedbackCommunityMember

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Hello,
I love Lightroom but it really needs a keyword panel/editor makeover. Photo Mechanic has a really nice keyword editor layout with columns where you can quickly and easily create, cut, paste, organize keywords and much more.
Can Adobe please do something like that but maybe cooler, since you're Adobe?

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