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P: Provide support for Linux

LEGEND ,
Apr 26, 2011 Apr 26, 2011

Lightroom for Linux - is it possible? Most my friends and I need it, because of not using Windows and current Linux tools can't get so great instruments for raw preprocessing and organizing...

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LEGEND ,
Mar 26, 2013 Mar 26, 2013
I am fed up of waiting, have been a linux user for a decade now, with windows on a machine for those programs that do not run all that great in virtualbox or wine, anyway my XP machine has died again, and to be honest I cannot be bothered to fix it, so I wont. I knew Linux support was a pipe dream back then, but with the computer landscape of today, Adobe needs to justify their continued stance on their position.

The Steam linux users count is within 1% of the Apple numbers with the possibility that Linux users may even exceed those Apple numbers given that many users in the other category will be made up of different Linux distributions, humble bundle again proves that Linux users pay for software.

Another annoying thing, more a pet peeve, is that I bought Adobe software, a paying user, I want and have requested a Linux version, I do not think I know one other person that paid for the software, they all use pirated versions, and get the benefit of a native client. The Linux tools that exist though not as good are still quality and maturing all the time, so hopefully the only one to loose out will be Adobe in the end.
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LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2013 Apr 16, 2013
There is not a really good photo management program in Linux. The only one which is acceptable is AfterShot from Corel, but looks like they discontinued the product.
In the other hand, I really need to use Linux in my work and having a second machine or a dual boot option it is not practical.

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Explorer ,
Apr 16, 2013 Apr 16, 2013
AfterShot from Corel discontinued???? Where is this information coming from? It is still listed in Corel web site? Just curious...

This is also darktable now: http://www.darktable.org
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LEGEND ,
Apr 16, 2013 Apr 16, 2013
Yep, Pascal. It is still listed. But there was no serious update for about year. Just few bugfixes, few cams were added and attempt to implement OpenCL was undertaken. You can waste money on it for sure, as I did last year. But it is dead in fact.
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LEGEND ,
Apr 28, 2013 Apr 28, 2013
From what I understand Adobes attitude to their products on Linux is a little like the chicken or the egg, saying that people that want it, have it, so they will not buy the Linux version. I want it and have bought it but never again while this mindset continues, the last version of Photoshop I upgraded was CS3 and have not upgraded since as no Linux version exists (my first PS purchase was was way back in the early 90's with version 3.0).

I now want to upgrade my version of Lightroom but by doing so technically hinders the chance of the Linux version which I require, so what are my options? Buy the Windows version and slap myself in the face? Or acquire it by other means and pay for the Linux version when it becomes available?

ps. I am not going to slap myself in the face
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New Here ,
May 28, 2013 May 28, 2013

I run a photographic retouching and printing studio.  I gave Aftershot a try and it is an afterthought next to Lightroom.  I use lightroom to both manage all my customers library and print setups as well as do input based grades for digital images from jpgs to raw.  I have paid for my lightroom licences on Mac and Window machines and will pay when Adobe grows up and port their software to Linux.  So catch a wake up Adobians, we are waiting!!

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LEGEND ,
May 28, 2013 May 28, 2013

amichai tahor wrote:

and will pay when Adobe grows up and port their software to Linux.  So catch a wake up Adobians, we are waiting!!

You wouldn't have to wait if you weren't insistent on using an unsupported OS - it's a hair shirt you've chosen to wear.

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Explorer ,
May 28, 2013 May 28, 2013

Keith_Reeder wrote:

amichai tahor wrote:

and will pay when Adobe grows up and port their software to Linux.  So catch a wake up Adobians, we are waiting!!

You wouldn't have to wait if you weren't insistent on using an unsupported OS - it's a hair shirt you've chosen to wear.

He ISN'T waiting to use the program.  He's already using it on both Windows and MacOS, but he'd like to be able to use it on Linux, too.  He isn't doing anything wrong or foolish by using Linux as well and he's just letting Adobe know that there is some demand for Lightroom among Linux users.

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LEGEND ,
May 28, 2013 May 28, 2013

Whenever this discussion comes up, proponents speak in broad generalities.  They say there is a big demand for Lightroom running under linux.  OK, show some numbers that would convince Adobe that it really is worth their time and expense and increased staff to support another OS.  This isn't a question of how many linux users there are, but rather how many Lightroom users really want/need linux.  Adobe is currently cutting support for older Windows and Mac operating systems that is (probably) causing greater displeasure among users.

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LEGEND ,
May 28, 2013 May 28, 2013

NathanChilton wrote:

He isn't doing anything wrong or foolish by using Linux as well and he's just letting Adobe know that there is some demand for Lightroom among Linux users.

 

Actually that's kinda my point, isn't it? You want Lr, use a supported OS.

And I'll bet you pounds to pennies that he's massively overstating the actual demand for a Linux Lightroom. I'm 100% with Jim H on this point: where are the numbers that make the case for Linux demand?

The fact remains that if Linux users must have Lightroom, the solution is in their own hands, and a little bit less OS zealotry would get them to where they want to be without any need to persuade Adobe of the supposed legitimacy of their case.

He ISN'T waiting to use the program

I  made the reference to waiting because he did:

catch a wake up Adobians, we are waiting!!

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Explorer ,
May 28, 2013 May 28, 2013

Amazing how some point out that it is ok for me to be forced using Windows or MacOS!!!! Incredible, are you forced to drive a chevrolet? Are you forced to buy a Sony TV?

I'm forced to use GNU/Linux for my WORK and I'm fedup having to reboot my computer and maintain a working dual-boot just for Lightroom. Is that this hard to understand? And seeing the number of people there asking for a GNU/Linux port, it looks like I'm not alone. Right?

Now, why are you so prompt defending Adobe for not supporting GNU/Linux? Is supporting GNU/Linux will hurt you? Are you paid by Adobe? Or just an Adobe zealotry... Just wondering...

You are ok with Windows or MacOS, fine. Can't you understand that there is some divesity around you!

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New Here ,
May 28, 2013 May 28, 2013

So much hatred. Why not have it checked out.

There are two supported os. Windows and Mac. Windows is a massively challenging os, in terms of its registry system, and weak file format as well as other issues (not to mention massively buggy releases). So I am left with Mac.

Now all Linux does for me is open the door for building a machine within a community that support me and that shares in a common purpose, to humanise computer based interaction. And now, under the shadow of the dreaded win 8 Linux is reaching maturity with stable, centrally directed distros like ubuntu, opensuse, redhat, fedora etc.

Now is the time for software companies to interact with this environment and grow, just like adobe did when it allowed users to develop their own filter scripts and implemented the best of them in its program. How much more so on a platform that encourage joint development.

Happiness!

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LEGEND ,
Jun 05, 2013 Jun 05, 2013

No hatred at all, Amichai (if you think what I've wrote is "hatred", I suggest you get out a bit more: dumping Linux and using an OS and associated software that just works would help with that, incidentally), just utter boredom and complete bafflement at the time and effort wasted by these poor, tortured Linux "victims" whining about what are entirely self-inflicted problems.

Pascal - still waiting for you to get Darktable ported to Windows. Fair's fair, remember...

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Explorer ,
Jun 05, 2013 Jun 05, 2013

@Keith, you just do not understand how Open Source softwares are done. I won't port darktable to Windows as I have no interrest. But for sure if someone want darktable for Windows it will do the port. The motivation is what is driving the Open Source community. As I'm using GNU/Linux I don't see why I should/could port it to Windows. Really strange reasoning.

But be sure I'm working activelly in darktable, I've done 258 comits in the project and a whole module to migrate from Lightroom to darktable. Not that bad, right? What have you done apart from being *against* GNU/Linux users?

Amazing!!!!

I'm not asking you to move away from Windows, right? You are happy with your environment, right? It just happen that there is some diversity around you, open your eyes!

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LEGEND ,
Jun 05, 2013 Jun 05, 2013

Pascal,

I think you summed up the situation in the very first sentence of this last comment when you said that you wouldn't port darktable to Windows because you have no interest.  That's probably why Adobe isn't worrying about linux.  They have no interest.  When you consider the number of users, and the small percentage that would want Lightroom, there aren't enough potential buyers to interest Adobe.  Yes, I know linux is wonderful.  But from what I am seeing it isn't catching on and probably won't catch on to the point that it will ever be considered a mainstream operating system.  When you operate on the edge like you linux users are doing you're going to have to develop your own software.

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Explorer ,
Jun 05, 2013 Jun 05, 2013

I understand your point, but that's different here.

- I have no interrest because I do not use Windows.

- Adobe has not interrest because they think they have no potential (or not enough) customers on this platform.

But this threads seems to indicate that there is some customers waiting for Lightroom on GNU/Linux, and not just a handful

As you see the point of view is quite different.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 05, 2013 Jun 05, 2013

I disagree with you.  But that is my privilege as well as yours.  Really, you have to think about the market potential.  It just isn't there using linux.  I don't care how many linux users of you say there are.  If you take a proportionate number of users who would use Lightroom I cannot really believe there is a potential market for profitability.  You can keep requesting support, but I seriously doubt you will ever see it.

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Explorer ,
Jun 05, 2013 Jun 05, 2013

I, too, would like to see Lightroom ported to Linux.  I would want to have a Linux version of Photoshop (even just Photoshop Elements), too.  I don't expect this to ever happen though because I doubt that there is enough demand for it.

It doesn't look to me like Pascal is being hostile at all towards Adobe -- though he is being attacked and belittled by some who prefer other OSs.  As far as I can tell, he just wants to let Adobe know that there is interest in a Linux port for Lightroom.  There are certainly a number of people who would like to be able to run Lightroom on Linux (I am one of them).  Supporting an additional platform is not a trivial task though, and Adobe needs to decide for themselves if it would be worth the investment. 

I haven't used Linux since I became a professional photographer.  I loved using Linux when I was working in various technical roles at Intel, but now that photography is my business, I'm stuck with either Windows or OSX.  I can't afford a Mac at the moment, so I run Windows. 

If Adobe ported Lightroom to Linux, I'd switch to using Linux most of the time.  I'm much happier in that environment.  However, I doubt that I would be willing to repurchase Lightroom for Linux.  So, Adobe wouldn't make any more money off of me by porting LR to Linux.  (Well, actually, if they offered a Linux version at a discount to people with current licenses of LR... I'd be willing to pay up to $50 in order to run LR on Linux.)

The fact is, although it's annoying to those of us who prefer Linux, I doubt that Adobe is losing much money by not having a Linux version.  People who really need Lightroom will do what is necessary to run it -- even if they have to dedicate a machine to running Windows. 

I'd love to see LR on Linux, but I doubt that we'll be able to convince Adobe to do the port.  There's a better chance of convincing Apple to port Aperture to Windows. 

Still, it shouldn't hurt to post the idea on Adobe's forum to bring a little awareness to the issue.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 05, 2013 Jun 05, 2013

To kieth. As it is open source all you have to do is learn c and make file scripting then you can port it to windows yourself using cygwyn maybe.

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Explorer ,
Jun 05, 2013 Jun 05, 2013

Yes, Kieth.  You could do it yourself, if you really wanted to port Darktable to Windows.  If Adobe gave me the source to Lightroom I'd happily port it to Linux.  The Linux community would do it themselves in no time if Lightroom were open source.  But, Lightroom is not open source software (and Adobe has every right and reason to keep it that way), so we can only run it on Linux if Adobe can be persuaded that doing the port would be worth the investment.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 05, 2013 Jun 05, 2013

Mind you, the support for flash has always been least effort from adobe' and acro read is not well supported either. I get the impression adobe are anti Linux really....

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LEGEND ,
Jun 06, 2013 Jun 06, 2013

robin48gx wrote:

I get the impression adobe are anti Linux really....

Nope...it's just that Linux isn't a real player yet even after all these years. It's simply not on Adobe's radar because, well, Linux doesn't matter to 98+% of the world's population. There is zero chance that Adobe would release Lightroom as opensource (not in thier DNA) and close to zero that Lightroom will ever be ported to Linux–there simply isn't enough demand.

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 06, 2013 Jun 06, 2013

tell that to Steam....

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Community Expert ,
Jun 06, 2013 Jun 06, 2013

"What is Steam?", say the 98+ %

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Community Beginner ,
Jun 06, 2013 Jun 06, 2013

The largest online game retailer in the world

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