P: Support cataloging PSB files

[alanterra]

Lightroom should catalog psb files, just as it does psd files. I have many psb files that are not over the 65,000 pixels per side or 512 megapixel limits, but are larger than the 4GB limit on psd files, and it would be nice to see them in Lightroom.

[Lee_Jay]

Since 512 megapixels * 8 bytes per pixel = 4GB, doesn't this mean you have large PSB files that are also layered?

[alanterra]

Yes.

[Lee_Jay]

So, if you flatten and save as a tiff, they show up in LR?

[alanterra]

LJ

I save the psb as a final tiff, which goes in my finished tiff folder. The psb is deep in my edited images folder structure. I link the two using the Title field (which is, I understand, the recommended practice for using xmp metadata to link various versions of the same file).

So I intended that if I needed to revisit an image, I would look in the final folder in LR, then search on the Title in LR, and find the original scan + all the intermediate versions + the final tiff + any resized tiffs, all nicely cataloged for me. Obv., this won't work as I was hoping it would, so I'll have to come up with a work-around.

[alanterra]

Oh, BTW, these Tiffs are 6 bytes per pixel, about 80 megapixels (4 x 5 images scanned at 2,000 dpi). When you get to 8 or 10 layers + masks you start to push up against the 4 GB limit, and when you have 20, you need to switch.

[Lee_Jay]

Got it.

As an aside, a possibly-simple workaround would be to place them into the same folder as the TIFF with the same file name. Then, when you want to find the PSB, you just use show in explorer/finder.

Yeah, I know, that's not the organization you have set up and the ability to catalog them would be better. As such, have you looked at the "anyfile" plugin?

[alanterra]

Lee or Lee Jay

(I"m confused if you have a double-barreled first name, or a first + last as your moniker here)

That recommendation for anyfile may be solution to many of problems. Thanks!

Alan

[bryn_f]

Or at least let you see thumbnails for them (like video support)

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I have been using Lightroom since version 1.2. My main use of the application is to create web galleries to show to my clients as well as for exporting my final Photoshop documents as Tiffs and Jpegs. I recently tried importing PSB files and disappointed that Lightroom 3.6 does not import these. It's important to my workflow and from various forum, find that it would be a welcome addition.

[JohnRolfeEllis]

Unfortunately, the Any File plugin will not show thumbnails of PSB files on Mac, and it will only show the thumbnails on Windows if you get a third-party codec (e.g. Ardfry's). I'm not aware of a third-party Quicklook plugin for PSB on Mac.

Unlike other application developers, Adobe refuses to provide the necessary thumbnail plugins for PSD and PSB files on Mac and Windows and PDF files on 64-bit Windows. (Apple has implemented Quicklook thumbnails for PSD files but not PSB files.)

[JohnRolfeEllis]

See also:

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I would like to put in my request to add PSB support as well. I do a lot of stitching of images, then combining of exposures and frequently exceed the limits of TIFF and PSD. Kudos to Adobe for adding support for 32 bit HDR TIFF images recently.

[TravisSmithRetouching]

It would be great to add .PSB support to lightroom! Personally I find LR amazingly useful for cateloging my working files as well as my RAW files and sometimes I am called upon to use .PSBs because I've exceeded the limit on .PSD. It would be extremely helpful to be able to incorporate my large photoshop files!

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I have just tried to import a .psb file into Lightroom to make some global adjustments and I am totally disgusted to find out that even the latest version of LR doesn't support their own file format! What is wrong with the people at Adobe? This is a file format that is increasingly being used by photographers working with large panoramic images produced by cameras with high-res sensors so this needs to be supported by LR. It is a no-brainer... Get it sorted Adobe quickly!!

[Christian_Stüben]

Hello Adobe development team.
In the last months, i more and more make gigapanoramas, that are stitched together from several hundred up to thousands of single fotos.

This will give pictures of many many gigapixel. And file sizes of 2 GB or much more.

One recent gigapano i have done is made of 200 jpeg files from Canon 5DM2, and due to overlapping the resulting file size is 110824 x 16263 pixel, 1.8 gigapixel, and 13,4 GB filesize. A .psb file.

As i remember, .psb is a format owned by Adobe. So i don ́t understand why this is not supported by Lightroom, a software that is dedicated to lossless manipulating pictures.

Yes, of course the stitching sofwate can render cropped files. But rendering gigapanos takes a long time. The example picture above takes approximately 8 hours to render.

So it would be a great help and time saver if there were a software that can crop gigapanos in much less than 8 hours.

Thank you!

greetings from germany
Christian Stüben

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I am also finding more and more of my final images going beyond the 4gb Tiff/LR4 limit. It is time for Adobe to bring LR up to speed to handle todays photographic possibilities.

[butlerkid]

I use a Nikon D800 and have many, many processed multi-layered files saved a .psb.......many are panos or HDRs. I am shocked to discover that the LR catalog cannot handle these files!

This is an Adobe file format, for crying out loud!!!! This weakness should have been fixed a long time ago!

[alanterra]

three years, 22 likes, no response from Adobe. Do you think that they are listening?

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Please add the ability for Lightroom to read and catalog .PSB files. It is very surprising that Lightroom cannot support this format which is essentially a PSD with a greater file size.

[butlerkid]

It appears that Adobe is only interested in shoving CC down our throats....but NOT interested in fixing basic limitations in their software!

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Indeed, I thought the idea of CC was constant updates, but wow didn't know that this ask goes back 3 years! Bridge has support for .PSB, why is it not in adobe flagship workflow product (Lightroom) which they are trying to push to all the existing aperture users. Adobe, please give this a look.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Yet another plea for Lightroom to support PSB files. As well as Lightroom having the just being able to 'read' and 'catalog' PSB files I would also like the option to 'edit in Photoshop' with PSB.

It is pretty boring to start in PSD and then get told my file size is too big and having to switch to PSD. I really cant see any disadvantage of starting in PSB to begin with

[John R Ellis]

A follow-up and partial solution for this three-year-old discussion: My Any File Lightroom plugin lets you catalog virtually any file type in your LR catalog, as long as Finder (Mac) or Explorer (Windows) can display thumbnails for that file type. On Windows, you can use a third-party plugin from Ardfry Imaging to get PSB thumbnails. But on Mac, Adobe and Apple have long refused to implement PSB thumbnails for the Finder, even though it is pretty easy technically. So there wasn't any practical way to catalog PSBs with LR/Any File.

After complaints from a number of Any File users, I finally got around to implementing a Mac Quick Look plugin that provides PSB thumbnails and previews for the Finder (and thus Any File / Lightroom). The plugin handles both PSBs and PSDs, and compared to the default Mac previews, it is up to ten time faster on very large PSDs. The plugin also shows low-quality previews and thumbnails for files saved without the Maximize Compatibility option (as compared to the default Mac previews, which are blank).

The plugin is currently in beta, and you can try it for free:

http://www.johnrellis.com/photoshop/p...

I'm not an expert Mac programmer, so the plugin very possibly has bugs at this stage. (I'd greatly prefer that Adobe or Apple, who do have expert programmers, provide this functionality.)

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Please add support for PSB,.. my catalog is incomplete now!
it's a pain to go into the finder everytime,.. also it makes you forget that the file was there. I don't care if it's non editable but just to see it would be a great help!

thanks,
Mark

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

also, if you make them it seems very silly to not support them