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April 6, 2019
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EOS2000D RAW weird tint/WB in Lightroom

  • April 6, 2019
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Hello

I've just upgraded my old EOS1000D to a EOS2000D. I'm using Lightroom Classic 8.0 that should Support EOS2000D, and I'm shooting in RAW.

When RAW Files are imported to Lightroom - the image looks "as shot" but the tint is always above 100 around 120-130, and with that tint I believe the image should be pretty magenta, but it just looks as shot.

If I then change the white balance in Lightroom to for example "Auto", the tint drops to 30 but now the image becomes green, If I select white balance "Flash" the tint drops to 0, and the image becomes yellow.

This was never a problem with the RAW files my EOS1000D made, they never started at a tint around 120-130 "as shot".

My presets is not working as expected anymore as they don't expect a image with a tint around 120-130 to be in normal color.

Here just imported with WB as shot and tint +124(!!)

here WB auto and tint +30 but now the image is green??

Here WB flash

Does anyone have a solution to this problem?

Brgds

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    GoldingD
    GoldingD
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    April 7, 2019

    first up, your in camera settings, if the as shot is returning that tint, some setting in the camera is wrong. It might be simplest to reset the camera settings to default. Not a holder of that camera, but you might want to check for a WB shift going on, perhaps a user error occurred.

    Seconf up, if the in camera WB is set oddly despite it being a RAW image, auto might get confused.

    Now you might want to try using that WB pick tool and sample the skull for the correct WB.

    steffenf84475088
    steffenf84475088Author
    Participant
    April 7, 2019

    Hello

    The Camera is brand new. However I tried to do a factory reset, with no result. Still oddly high tint on RAW images, that yet still don't look magenta even through the tint slider is almost all way to the right.

    If i do RAW processing in Canons own Digital Photo Professional 4, the temp/tint sliders is neutral on newly imported images so I believe it has something to do with how LR reads the RAW files and process them from this camera?

    The WB Pick tool works fine on all of my images, meaning the tint will still be set very high but the image still look natural in the colors. As a workaround I can use the WB Pick tool every time I have used a preset that changing the tint... it's just odd that the tint should be set this high on imported images for them to look normally in LR.

    Brgds

    Todd Shaner
    Todd Shaner
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    April 7, 2019

    Hello

    I really appreciate all of your efforts trying to solve this problem, thank you!

    I have taken an example image in RAW CR2 with everything set to auto on the camera, the file can be downloaded here: Dropbox - IMG_0292.CR2

    Brgds. 


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    For now I suggest using the 'As Shot' WB setting. If you make any changes to the Temp or Tint settings the WB will be way off and when Adobe creates new version 2 camera profiles and you assign them. You'll then need to readjust the WB in those image files manually or reset them to 'As Shot' when assigning the new camera profile. Just a suggestion to reduce work going forward.

      DdeGannes
      Community Expert
      DdeGannesCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      April 6, 2019

      Quote. “My presets is not working as expected anymore as they don't expect a image with a tint around 120-130 to be in normal color.”

      If you are applying a preset that was created specifically for your earlier model camera, then it may not be suitable to adjust the wb or profile of the new camera. Each camera model is unique and is why LR creates specific profiles for each and every new camera model when adding support.

      Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
      DdeGannes
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      DdeGannesCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      April 6, 2019

      The import will always say as shot if you have not applied a preset or made a change to the temperature settings ting in the camera. This is an indoors capture so what is relevant here is what setting did you have set in the camera when taking the shot e.g. auto, daylight, shadow, flash etc?

      The second and third screen captures I expect you have applied in Lightroom and are not appropriate to the actual lighting.

      if you had the setting in the camera set to auto then the camera has been fooled by the lighting in the screen.

      i would suggest you choose a part of the actual photo that should be a neutral part of the image e.g the skull of the skeleton or the table top and see if you can correct the white balance.

      Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
      steffenf84475088
      steffenf84475088Author
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      April 6, 2019

      Hello DdeGannes.

      I know WB in LR will always be set to "as shot" after import with not preset applied. What I meant is that "as shot" is the only setting where the colors are not messed up to something completely wrong - "as the image was shot/shown on the camera"...

      I don't believe the setting on the camera auto, daylight etc. should mean anything when shooting in RAW, as that's why I'm during it, to be able to edit the WB after the images has been shot.

      Again the tint on my RAW files from my EOS1000D where never imported to LR with such high value, the image should be magenta with a tint around +123 and not just normal colors/real colors, it's like the whole tint scale is completely out of sync.

      Brgds

      Todd Shaner
      Todd Shaner
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      April 6, 2019

      That is a very high Tint setting for even artificial lighting (fluorescent, mercury, tungsten) so there may be a problem with the Adobe camera profiles. What type of lighting was used and do you see the same issue in pictures shot outside with daylight.

      Interestingly there doesn't appear to be EOS 2000D specific camera profile in the latest LR ver 8.2.1. It's using the EOS 1500D camera profiles as opened in the DNG Profile Editor. It's also not showing in the list of  Cameras supported by Camera Raw.

      Available Adobe Standard profiles:

      steffenf84475088
      steffenf84475088Author
      Participant
      April 6, 2019

      Hello Todd.

      The example image was shot inside, but the problem is the same with images shot in plain daylight... I have also tried to convert them to DNG's from RAW with the same result. (high tint)

      You correct that the EOS 2000D is listed together with EOD1500D on the camera support RAW list, maybe you are right the profile does not fit the EOS2000D and there is nothing to do about it?

      EOS 1500D
      (EOS Rebel T7, EOS Kiss X90, EOS 2000D)      		CR210.31.37.3-
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