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August 4, 2010
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  • August 4, 2010
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I've been a long time user of Lr, starting with the first beta and I mostly love it.

It was only recently I tried Aperture 3, I wrote an indepth review of Lr 3 vs Aperture 3 (and others) here:

http://www.twin-pixels.com/raw-processors-review-aperture-bibble-capture-one-dxo-lightroom/

1. One thing I really like in Aperture is how nicely integrated the browse/library mode is, compared with Lightroom.

In Aperture, you can edit a picture while in Browse mode (as opposed to Lightroom's Quick Develop, which is pretty much useless). I'd love being able to get into Compare/Survey and still have full control over processing. I also find it confusing that some options are available while in Library mode but not in Develop mode. Things have improved since V1 but I still find the separation between Library and Develop as too artificial and having seen Aperture, I'm sure Lightroom can do better.

2. Another thing from Aperture I'd love to see is how if you have several images selected and change the let's say the Exposure, all images are updated. I know we have Sync and Copy from Previous but again there's room for improvement.

3. The perspective correction is very powerful but sometimes hard to do, especially when you need to alter all three axes. Here I'd like to see a keystoning tool like in DxO.

4. The purple fringing correction is not very powerful, compared to other programs. Capture One and DxO work on high radii  and they seem to correct the luminance in the affected areas as well.

4. Speaking of tools, how about more brushes? Like a Noise brush or a WB brush. How great would it be to be able to make local adjustments to WB.

These are my most important suggestions and I made them not to bash Lightroom, but because I want it to be THE tool for processing Raws.

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    Participating Frequently
    January 12, 2012

    The place you should be posting to is the Lightroom 4 Beta Forum...

    Participant
    January 11, 2012

    Hey guys, I need some help.  I just bought a 2008 Imac 24" with a core 2 duo, 2gb ram.  It had a blown hard drive so I placed a 500Gb in it.  I have not had a Mac since 97.  I downloaded LR 4 to try both of them out, but it won't allow me to install it for some reason.  Would any of you guys know why?

    DdeGannes
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    Community Expert
    January 11, 2012

    On the Mac you need OS X 10.6.8 or X 10.7.

    Minimum system requirements

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    • Multicore Intel® processor with 64-bit support
    • Mac OS X v10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) or v10.7 (Lion)
    • 2GB of RAM
    • 1GB of available hard-disk space
    • 1,024×768 display
    • DVD-ROM drive
    • Internet connection required for Internet-based services
    Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
    Known Participant
    December 31, 2011

    It would be great to lose the barrier between the modules. But both ways please. Being able to see metadata in develop mode and applying relative adjustments like Quick Develop does (try raising Exposure by 10 to several photos in Develop mode) would be nice.

    In the end making the UI way more customizable (see most other Adobe programs, Photshop, InDesign, you name it and also Phase One's Capture One) and adding keyboard shortcuts for everything would be a sensible evolution.

    Lastly again Capture One is also a good example for exhaustive brush capabilities.

    Participating Frequently
    December 31, 2011

    Thomas Geist wrote:

    Lastly again Capture One is also a good example for exhaustive brush capabilities.

    Really, you sure? I find C1's brush to be primitive compared to LR...

    Known Participant
    November 22, 2011

    I'm not terribly bothered by the modality of LR. Maybe if I used Aperture I'd feel differently, but moving back and forth doesn't really bother me, especially since in the Libray I can type many edit shortcuts (e.g., 'R' for cropping) and go directly to the edit module. Auto sync works fine for me if I want to adjust a batch of images, which I rarely do.

    I would like to see more powerful local edit capabilities, but I'm not sure Adobe will ever threaten PS by incorporating too many of it's capabilities into LR. But I'd like to see all the edit controls available as local edits. I'd like to be able to adjust the sensitivity of the Auto-mask feature, and I'd like to be able to reverse the selection (i.e., select an area, apply some edits, then de-select that and automatially select all the rest of the image to apply other edits.)

    Participant
    November 22, 2011

    All I want, more than anything else, is the ability to set keyboard shortcuts for things like white balance, exposure etc (even better if I can adjust these accurately within the library interface).  I know there are third party products that will let me do this, but they cost 3 times what I paid for LR in the first place!!

    Participant
    September 29, 2011

    if i may add... hope LR4 would have a simple LIQUIFY TOOL... c",)

    hamish niven
    Inspiring
    September 29, 2011

    eeish - a liquify, that is pixel descructive.

    its also photo manipulation than touchup/edit IMHO anyway

    Participant
    September 29, 2011

    liquify is very helpful to many commercial/non-commercial outputs that client requires removal of unwanted bulges in my humble experience.  proper use of it has minimal impact on the destruction of the so called "pixel".  again, in my humble experience anyway.

    Participant
    September 26, 2011

    Gaspyy wrote:

    I'd love being able to get into Compare/Survey and still have full control over processing.

    I've always wanted to be able to edit a photo in the Develop module while keeping an eye on another photo I've worked on, as a reference and an aid to keep the feel of a body of work cohesive: in many cases, the original photos have slightly different qualities so that synchronizing the settings between photographs doesn't necessarily give you the result you want on all of the photos. Keeping an eye on another photo (or more than one, if a small lightbox panel can be viewed) would be a great help.

    Another function that is needed, is the ability to apply develop presets and various settings with a compounding effect, as far as the limits would allow: again, many times, there have been times where various photos have been worked on in different ways to achieve a general balance and feel (some having cooler white balance applied, some warmed up, some darkened in one way, others darkened with more complex curves and some brightened, but all achieving a certain goal). When a preset is applied across the board, to achieve a desired body of work, all of the previous balancing acts will be lost, as the presets will reset certain settings to achieve their look - then the arduous task of going through all of the photos and re-working them all to match begins, negating any benefit the preset functionality ever gives us.

    On an unrelated note: it is getting rather tedious, being out of sync between Lightroom's and Photoshop's Camera Raw versions, each time one or the other upgrades their product.

    We shouldn't have to make an expensive (and sometimes un-necessary) upgrade of entire suite, such as the design suite I have just because I've made a relatively inexpensive and necessary upgrade to Lightroom.

    I'm stuck with warnings telling me that the editing of the raw files, sent by Lightroom to Photoshop are mis-matched and the results could be inconsistent. Upgrading the Camera Raw in Photoshop isn't a workable option, but it should be: We should be allowed to synchronize our Camera Raw across the board without huge expense.

    Inspiring
    September 26, 2011

    Manex Efrem wrote:


    I've always wanted to be able to edit a photo in the Develop module while keeping an eye on another photo I've worked on, as a reference and an aid to keep the feel of a body of work cohesive: in many cases, the original photos have slightly different qualities so that synchronizing the settings between photographs doesn't necessarily give you the result you want on all of the photos. Keeping an eye on another photo (or more than one, if a small lightbox panel can be viewed) would be a great help.

    You can already do that.  Use the second-monitor functionality (you don't need a second monitor if you don't have one - use a window instead) and set that one to locked loupe on the image of interest.

    Participant
    November 24, 2011

    Lee Jay wrote:

    You can already do that.  Use the second-monitor functionality (you don't need a second monitor if you don't have one - use a window instead) and set that one to locked loupe on the image of interest.

    Thanks Lee, that's useful to know... but it would be nice if the function was built into the software to keep the woking format and layout rather than clever work-around solutions. It's just a little neater that way. I'll use your suggestion in the meantime though.

    Cheers

    Participant
    August 26, 2011

    Lightroom has changed the way I process photos.

    It's almost a one-stop tool, with only minor or more specific edits afterward in PS.

    Since switching to RAW files a year ago however, my workflow has ground to a crawl.

    Editing and exporting jpgs is a joy.

    However edting my Nikon RAW files, especially following use of the brush tool, has been annoying.

    It is impossible to export the images to 16bit TIF/Prophoto without closing and reopening the program due to memory issues.

    This is definitely a memory leak associated with brush-editing Nikon Raw files (much less of an issue with Canon RAW but still there).

    I would be happy if Lightroom 4 just fixed the memory issues which are filling blogs with no resolution.

    Of course, the WB brush and negative selection areas are great ideas to add in too!

    Participant
    August 3, 2011

    any idea when Lightroom 4 will be released?

    ssprengel
    Inspiring
    August 3, 2011

    Here is a timeline of the various Lightroom releases, so you can guess along with the rest of us:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Dn_lightroom_release_history.png

    Participant
    August 3, 2011

    Thanks so I guess another 6 to 12 months...

    Participant
    July 27, 2011

    I could use an improvement in the export page. I always have to export at least 3 versions of my finished work, each with different sizes, resolution, sharpening, etc. It would be great if I could set up all the exports I need from a catalog, and then walk away (or sleep overnight) while the different versions are generated in sequence.

    Participant
    July 27, 2011

    I do that now in LR 3.

    Once I start an export task for the selected photos I can start a second and a third. All tasks will run in parallel. That's an overnighter usually.

    It will however be great to have multiple export parameters with different destinations folders or naming, in one window. Awesome!