P: Point curve settings are missing when creating a preset

[Amani Ali]

I am trying to save a preset I have created, however when I apply the preset on an image the point curve setting is missing. I am not sure why this is happening as I've previously successfully saved presets without settings being missed.

My Lightroom CC is up to date (V6.4), I have restarted it too.

This is what the selection looks like when I press "Create Preset" as you can see the tone curves are ticked

However, when I apply the preset, the point curve doesn't change.

Please could someone give me some advice, thank you.

[Amani Ali]

I am trying to save a preset I have created, however when I apply the preset on an image the point curve setting is missing. I am not sure why this is happening as I've previously successfully saved presets without settings being missed.

My Lightroom CC is up to date (V6.4), I have restarted it too.

This is what the selection looks like when I press "Create Preset" as you can see the tone curves are ticked

 

However, when I apply the preset, the point curve doesn't change.

Please could someone give me some advice, thank you.

[Ian Lyons]

Your post relates to Lightroom desktop, not Lightroom Classic.

Moving thread to Lightroom Ecosystem

[Amani Ali]

Yes sorry I just realised that and created a post for the other area, please can I have this post deleted?

[Rob_Cullen]

Can I suggest that you created the Preset with a Parametric Curve adjustment (indicated by the dot under the s-curve icon).

And your screen image shows you have the Point Curve selected after applying the Preset.

The two curves work independently  (Parametric and Point)

Click on the s-curve icon and you should see your Preset curve adjustment.

[Charlotte5CC0]

I am trying to save a preset that I made that includes adjustments to both the point curve and the tone curve. Here is what it looks like:

 

When I save this preset and then apply it to the same picture, it looks completely different. My point curve adjustments aren't saving, only the Tone Curve:

I know it's hard to tell from a small sample of my picture, but the coloring and shadows are all off. How can I save my preset so that it copies all of my adjustments, not just the Tone Curve? 

[Rob_Cullen]

There are Parametric Curve and a Point Curve options.

If you check both  options when creating the Preset then you should have both adjustments in the Preset to apply in other photos.

I can successfully apply both types of curves in the one Develop Preset-

Do you have other adjustments saved in the Preset that is giving the different result?

[Charlotte5CC0]

That option does not appear for me. When I create a preset, this is what my options are:

Only "Tone Curve" appears.

[Rob_Cullen]

I assume you are using Lightroom-Desktop v6.4 on a Windows-PC.

You can just select the [Light] box for all 'Light' adjustments to be included, or you can just select the single [Tone Curve] box to be specific to include only the Tone curve. If it is only the Tone Curve adjustments you want in the Preset, then uncheck everyting other than 'Tone Curve'

The [Tone Curve] option, when checked, will save a Preset that includes both the Parametric Curve and the Point Curve adjustments.

I just tested a new Preset again, with "Tone Curve" checked (as in the clip above)- The Preset when applied to another photo applies both the Parametric and Point curve adjustments (as in clips below).

Note that you need to click on the icons to choose which Tone Curve type to view- you will never see both at the same time.

I assume this is still your question re. both tone curve types.

[Charlotte5CC0]

Hi, 

I do have the Light box checked, that is why all of those boxes are checked in my screenshot. But we seem to be getting different results when tested. Here is what I see when I am creating the preset.

Here is my photo, with adjustments on all curves:

Here is how I create the preset, with all boxes checked including Tone Curve:

And then here is what I see when I apply that preset to the same photo:

As you can see, none of my curve adjustments besides Tone Curve were saved. The photo looks different in both color and lighting, most notably in the shadows.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

It is working for me, @Charlotte5CC0 
I would recommend resetting your Lr Preferences to see if that cures it. 

This procedure works for both Lightroom Classic and Lightroom Desktop.

If you are using Lightroom Desktop it can change the location of your local storage. Please review this setting after resetting preferences. 

Reset Procedure:

1. Close Lightroom.

2. Hold down [Alt/Opt]+[Shift] while restarting Lightroom.

3. Overwrite the Preferences when prompted by the dialog.

4. Close Lightroom.

5. Restart Lightroom.

[at0dd]

I've also been experiencing this issue with Lightroom 6.4 (arm64) on Mac OS Ventura 13.5.

It most notably happens when I have a preset that contains some of the Premium Preset masks like Enhance Portrait. It does not happen consistently and I have verified that when saving the preset, all of the checkboxes are checked - with the exception of Auto Settings. I typically use the point curve and not the tone curve. I haven't had this issue until recently.

[at0dd]

It seems a temporary work-around is to copy the edit settings (three dot menu on the right or Command/Control + C) and paste them on to the photo you want to edit, then adjust and apply anything else.

[Norbertvdv]

I am wondering the exact same thing! The point curve is such an essential tool in photo editing and including it in a preset is crucial. How do you otherwise incorporate crushed blacks into a preset? I know this can be done in LrC, but I'm mostly, if not only, editing in Lr mobile. 

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Your Preset contains a Point Curve but you have selected the Parametric Curve in your screenshot.  Select the Curve on the bottom of the left icon (Gray Circle)

[Norbertvdv]

Dear Rikk, 

Can you make an edit with a point curve in LR (not classic) and save it as a preset? It seems that you can only save the tone curve and not the point curve. Thanks in advance 

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Yes I can.

[Norbertvdv]

Ok, great! Can you show me how? Thanks in advance 👍

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

1.  Select Image
2.  Adjust Point Curve
3.  Go to Presets
4.  Click [ + ] 
5.  Give it a name (Done) 
6.  (Test)  Go to new image
7.  Go to Presets
8.  Apply preset from step 5
9.  Look at Curve with Point Curve Selected

[isabela28400636]

I'm having the same issue. I've resetted Lightroom desktop preferences, but it still doesn't save the tone curve adjustments when I save or update a preset.

[Charlotte5CC0]

Yea, I unfortunately never found a solution to this problem. Weirdly, it's only an issue for some presets - half of the time, it will save and copy everything over perfectly, and half of the time it ignores the tone curve. I don't understand why. 

[Logan Dam]

I just ran into the same issue. I don't have any Premium Preset masks, just plain old Light/Texture/Optics tweaks including point curve (and no parametric curve as suggested by others), and when I create a preset from an image and then try apply it to any image (including the one I just created the preset from) it applies everything except the point curve.

Older presets I created years ago have no problem applying point curves.

I reported it as a bug in Lightroom.

[rymrtn]

Great that you have reported it as bug, seems to be a legitimate one that started in version 6.4. I had to downgrade to 6.3.1 for me to not encounter this issue.

[rymrtn]

Hi Rikk, not sure if I followed your steps correctly but the point curver is still not being copied. What I did instead is to downgrade to 6.3.1 where the issue is not happening. Seems like this issue started in version 6.4.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Hello all,

I've tested this again today and am still unable to repeat any failure. 

• Fresh Image
• Adjust Point Curve
• Save As Preset
• go to new image
• Apply preset
• Inspect Point Curve 
• Applied correctly

• Fresh Image
• Adjust Parametric Curve
• Save As Preset
• go to new image
• Apply preset
• Inspect Parametric Curve 
• Applied correctly

• Fresh Image
• Adjust Point & Parametric Curves
• Save As Preset
• go to new image
• Apply preset
• Inspect Point Curve and Parametric Curve
• Both Applied correctly

Can anyone here provide a complete set of test steps that will reproduce this and post them here?

Without those, no bug can be filed. 

[Amani Ali]

yep this is what i've been able to do as a workaround, just copy the settings & paste on a fresh image, but it would make life easier if i could just save the preset