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Help deleting hi res photos from cloud

New Here ,
Feb 14, 2023 Feb 14, 2023

I am working via a samsung tablet on lightroom mobile app. I can import and create an album no problem and everything syncs to lr classic and the original hi res is set up to be saved to my NAS via the sync processes. What i want to then do is delete the hi res photo from the cloud but still have all edits and albums intact across the mobile app and lr classic. Reason i want to delete the hi res from the cloud is because i only have the 20gb plan and don't want to be running out of room. So essentially i just want the smart preview to remain, just as if i was doing the process via lr classic. I have looked everywhere and asked in a Facebook photo group but havent gotten a solution. Is it possible or am I just better off doing everything through lr classic then just edit away on my phone/tablet. Thanks

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Community Expert ,
Feb 14, 2023 Feb 14, 2023

If you delete from the Cloud then you delete from Lightroom Mobile also, as they sync. 


The best option probably is, after syncing has completed down to Lightroom Classic, to delete from the Cloud.

 

You can then resync in a Collection from Classic to the Cloud. This will only sync lower res Smart Previews, but will not use up any of your Cloud quota.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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New Here ,
Feb 15, 2023 Feb 15, 2023
Thanks for that, it seems that yes thats the only option but defeats the whole idea of what i was trying to, because i would have to back to lr classic. I guess i am better of starting the process in lr classic then pick up the editing on the mobile app

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Community Expert ,
Feb 15, 2023 Feb 15, 2023

The Lightroom ecosystem (Lightroom desktop, Lightroom mobile) stores the images in the cloud. If you could delete the full image and replace it by a smart preview, without having Lightroom Classic keeping the original locally, then you would completely lose the original image. So yes, if you use the Photography Plan with 20GB cloud space, then you use the 'Lightroom Classic and Photoshop plan' that is meant for storing images locally. The option to sync smart previews to the cloud and so to your mobile devices must be seen as an option that originates in Lightroom Classic.

 

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New Here ,
Feb 15, 2023 Feb 15, 2023
I am able to store the photos locally when importing from mobile app, thats a good thing, I assumed that i could start my entire workflow from the mobile app, do all of my edits in the app, then eventually launch lr classic and have everything then sync to it and my catalog, then just go back and delete the original image but have everything else intact, since the photo is now stored locally and lr classic knows where is located. I assume that the lack of a smart preview being created from the the mobile app is the main culprit. But it is what it is so i will just start everything via lr classic and then edit on my tablet/phone on my downtime. Thanks

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Community Expert ,
Feb 15, 2023 Feb 15, 2023

Many users successfully manage their workflow, involving import into whichever app is the most convenient at the time, while only having a 20GB cloud allowance. If they import into Classic, they can sync smart previews to the cloud. If they import into Lightroom (often phone captures of course) those images upload in full resolution so do count against the 20GB allowance, so typically they would wait until those files have downloaded into their synced LrC catalog. Once safely stored locally in LrC, they are removed from the All Synced Photographs special collection in LrC, which deletes them from the cloud (deleting from LrC is safer than deleting from a Lightroom app, as you know they have safely arrived in LrC). Once removed from the cloud, they are re-synced from LrC to put them back into the cloud as smart previews....easier still would be to gather them into an unsynced collection first, then remove them from All Synced Photographs, then simply enable that collection to sync.

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Participant ,
Apr 12, 2023 Apr 12, 2023
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@antoniod84162112did you find a solution? I wanted to do the same but process is horribly designed resulting in easy confusion / duplication / deletion, especially if you have a lot of phone pics + professional work to manage. Unwilling to believe the illogical process I was being advised of* I spoke to several people at Adobe and found confusion and conflicting views on how it works. The upshot is the process I couldn't believe was real is indeed real. (Horrible workflow for profesional users - but effective means of railroading us into buying cloud storage).

 

I concluded the only safe solution was to do the following, which may/ may not work for you. 

 

  1. Set up a new, dedicated LrC Lrcat for cloud sync / LR Web edits.
  2. Empty the cloud storage completely (making room for pending files / prevent later confusion as to what's located where).
  3. In main LrC Lrcat, use File > Import from Another Catalogue to manually select what I want from the cloud. (It brings all the edits but thankfully does not sync back to cloud b/c Sync only works with one catalogue).
  4. I'll never allow Cloud Sync in my working LrC LRCATs again; it's a two-way file sync which you can't stop or reverse*, with horrible implications:
  • LR cloud / mobile / web (I'll call it LR Web for clarity) will always ingest ALL files from ALL LrC Collections into the cloud, stop syncing when full and and harrass you to buy more storage.
  • Once LrC files have been synced - even if they originated in LrC on your local drive - you can't un-sync them. (You might imagine that clicking UN-sync in Collections would UN-sync existing files, but it doesn't; the two-way sync is a one-way ticket.
  • Worse, if you delete from Cloud to make space, any photos in LrC catalogue that originated in the LR web (so 99% of my mobile phone pics) as opposed to local Lrcat will be deleted from LrC unless you have manually downloaded them. It's a great way to lose data.

 

PROCESS to safeguard images already in LrC

  1. Install Adobe LR Downloader App > download all from LR web to local drive for  backup / to find files you are not yet aware you may have lost from LrC. (It respects date folder structure, but not groupings such as albums and folders made on tablet / mobile).
  2. LrC > Cloud > Pause Sync
  3. LrC > Library > Catlogue > All Synced Photos > select all
  4. LrC > make a new local / NAS folder adding all selected files. (Don't try to do other things while this is happening; a click in the wrong place and you're fried; LrC crashed 3 times whilst moving 13k+ cloud images...).
  5. LrC > Collections. UNSYNC every Collection (double arrow on left) to stop it syncing new files. (Don't imagine you can now turn Sync back on to download files that were stuck when Cloud full. See next).
  6. When download finished: select all files > R-click > Remove from All Synced Photos. At this point photos vanish from All Synced Photos in LrC. Next message indicates files will only be deleted from the cloud once LR Web once Sync resumes - but don't be misled!! If you resume Sync it will immediately re-ingest all the files you've just removed.
  7. Check LR Downloader app finished and you now have a copy of all web files stored locally.
  8. File > Import > go to LR Download and have it import all files with 'Don't import suspected duplicates'. This picked up a number of files that had been lost along the way.
  9. Close LrC.
  10. LR web > delete all files > permanently delete. You now have a clean slate from which to keep track of future uploads and downloads.
  11. Make new folder for downloading files from LR web and NEW LrC catalogue for use with LR Web.
  12. Point LR Sync to new folder and start syncing files stuck due to previously full cloud storage.

 

* It didn't used to be this way. Originally, you could just un-sync a collection in LrC and that was the end of it but at some point around 2016?17? Adobe changed this simple, logical process for the one we have now.

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