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February 16, 2021
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Lightroom web gallery : ordering problems

  • February 16, 2021
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Hi there,

I've read several different posts about ordering pictures in Lightroom Web via the display tab, but couldn't find something linked to my problem.

I have a collection that is synced with cloud and I'm currently working on it (adding pictures when they are ready)via a Lightroom Classic synced collection.

First problem : in the display tab, when I'm choosing "Importation date" for the order, the file order is quite random. I guess the upload process is kind of random but still, pictures uploaded on the day n+1 can be displayed before pictures synced on day n.... So I don't really understand how pictures are ordered. So, I choose to order via "Capture time" which is quite certain.

Second problem : whatever is the choosen order, if I have set some titles in the display tab. Adding only one more picture to the synced gallery will result in loosing completey the photos order : titles will display ramdomly at the bottom of the gallery with or without pictures in it... I was thinking that setting "Importation order" would add the pictures at the bottom without altering the titles but it's not working either...

That second problem means I have to wait that my editing process is completely finished before being able to set titles in my gallery. And  that if I have forgotten to add ANY picture in the synced collection or want to add some later, I have to start over the title process again...

Any way to get ride of this ? To Adobe : are you working on improving the display tab ??

Thanks,

Mickaël.

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Jim Wilde
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 16, 2021

It's possible that you're not fully understanding how the Display tab is designed to work. At the basic level, it's intended as a means to allow the user to set the order in which the images in the specific album will be displayed when viewed by other people using the Shared Album feature. The display order is always going to be whatever has been set as the "Custom Order", and that custom order can be set by drag and drop in any of the client apps in the user's cloud ecosystem (including using the Display tab in LrWeb). However, via that Display tab in the LrWeb app, the user can do a few other things that can't be done in any of the other client aps: you can add dividers/headers/sub-headers/text to add interest and information to the shared alsbum for the viewers, and you can also "reset" the custom order using the option at the bottom of the Display tab's settings box.

 

So, you obviously understand how to add sections and text, but you need to realise that selecting one of those order options only does a point-in-time reset of the current custom/display order into whatever option order you have set. It does NOT change the "sort order" for all new images subsequently added to the album, it just changes the current "custom order".....so any images added to the album after resetting the order will only appear either at the beginning or the end of the album when viewed in the Display tab. Furthermore, resetting the order after you've added text will cause any added text to be removed, though you should receive this warning about that:

 

The way I work when adding text segments in the Display tab is to broadly get the album contents together (I do the editing before this). If I'm happy to use one of the standard sort orders, e.g. Capture Date, I'll reset the order as appropriate using the control on the Display tab settings, but if I want to use a specific custom order I'll use drag and drop in the Display tab to get them into the order I want (though you can of course get them into the preferred custom order using any other Lightroom app). Then I'll add the section dividers, headings, text etc. If, after setting everything up, I realise there are some additional images I want to add to the album, I'll add them then open up the album's Display tab, locate the added images (easy enough to do) and then drag and drop them into the position that I want them displayed in. Resetting the custom order is a bad idea in this circumstance.

 

Hope that helps.

Participating Frequently
February 16, 2021

Hi Jim and thanks for your quick response.

My only use of the web gallery is indeed to share it with my customers. And most of the time, like you do, I send the pictures in a gallery once the postprocessing is done, then changing order in LrWeb and adding titles at the very end of the workflow.

The problem appears for me at the last step you've indicated ("If, after setting everything up, I realise there are some additional images I want to add to the album") : when I'm adding a picture after this customizing process in LrWeb, the new picture is indeed added at the beginning (which is not a problem for me) BUT the rest of the pictures are messed up : photos are no longer in their custom section , and moreover they have a new random sort ! At this point, it's less worst for me to reset the order and dividers than trying to reorder from the mess...

It's really annoying in the case a customer says "Oh please can you add a black and white version of XXX in the gallery ?"... which, in fact, is part of the normal process before the final delivery of the pictures...

Participating Frequently
February 16, 2021

It's frustrating, I've managed to break it a couple of times today but can't find the recipe that can trigger it every time. There's a much better chance of getting the problem fixed if it can be reliably reproduced. I'll keep playing with it, but I'll also try to get this issue over to Adobe to see if they'll look at it. They usually do, but without the specific recipe a fix would be less certain.


OK thanks Jim.

On my side, I will be away from networks (and my computer) for a week or so. So won't be able to complete more tests soon.