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This post applies to the Project Indigo iOS camera app.
Adobe Labs is excited to share an early look at Project Indigo, an iPhone camera app we've started to develop, to get feedback from the photography community. The app offers full manual controls, a more natural ("SLR-like") look, and high image quality in both JPEG and raw formats. It also introduces some new photographic experiences not available in other camera apps. For more information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Project Indigo blog post.
Before you start with Project Indigo
Recipes for success when using Project Indigo
To get the maximum out of your images captured with the app, follow these guidelines:
Sending feedback
Please try the app and share feedback in this community forum thread. If you report a problem you encountered, it would help to include details like which device you are running Project Indigo on, what kind of scene you were trying to capture, what you were trying to achieve with the camera, and as much information as possible about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues and improve future experiences.
To improve the performance and results of Project Indigo, it is important that examples of images that do not meet your expectations are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on the Project Indigo camera!
Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, NextCam
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I have done more tests with 2x and 10x. The 2x is ok but I guess still have too much denoising applied! The 10x is outright heavily denoised vs apple's own 10x albeit it theirs have more oversharpening and noisier but weird noises. PI still experiences artifacts with motion/and or merging artifacts.
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Overall having a good experience.
the look is overly processed - would be nice to tune strength. Alternatively, need to add digital grain.
since we're doing all this processing, would be cool to see film sims like Fuji.
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Ich finde, das Programm ist sehr gut. Ich würde mir wünschen, dass es auch in Deutsch geben wird.
I think the program is very good. I would like it to be available in German as well.
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Hallo Oliver - vielen Dank für Ihr Feedback. Wir planen, in Zukunft Unterstützung für Internationalisierung in das Projekt Indigo zu integrieren.
PS
I speak some German, but on this I relied on ChatGPT to translate. 🙂
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Pi immediately replaced the default camera app for me. One thing I'm wondering is that I always see a crossed out and red HDR sign when displaying images on the filmstrip. iPhone 15 Pro. I wonder why that is.
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Hello - thank you for trying Project Indigo and for your feedback. The red crossed HDR icon indicates that the display doesn't have enough headroom to show HDR content properly. This can be due to a variety of reasons, including being in bright environments, device overheating, device being in low power mode, etc.
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In the introduction article about indigo, it is written that you plan to add video recording, including some cool computational video features you're cooking up in the lab. This is why I would like to propose both photos and video features.
I would absolutely suggest you to add open gate recording to be able to record 4:3 video and use the whole sensor of the iPhone. Also, an option to use mireds instead of Kelvin for the color temperature would be welcomed, in both photo and video mode. Finally, when using 0.5x mode, a lot of distorsion typically appear on the edge, it can be corrected using a similar approach as the one described in this article, where a different projection algorithm is used for faces and building https://people.csail.mit.edu/yichangshih/wide_angle_portrait/
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In the introduction article about indigo, it is written that you plan to add video recording, including some cool computational video features you're cooking up in the lab. This is why I would like to propose both photos and video features.
I would absolutely suggest you to add open gate recording to be able to record 4:3 video and use the whole sensor of the iPhone. Also, an option to use mireds instead of Kelvin for the color temperature would be welcomed, in both photo and video mode. Finally, when using 0.5x mode, a lot of distorsion typically appear on the edge, it can be corrected using a similar approach as the one described in this article, where a different projection algorithm is used for faces and building https://people.csail.mit.edu/yichangshih/wide_angle_portrait/
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Hi Elias - thank you for your interest in Indigo. We are indeed considering the best ways to explore adding video to Indigo. Your suggestions definitely make sense and we'll take them into consideration.
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I love Project Indigo on my iphone 16 Pro. I wish there was a setting to capture just the DNG's without the JPEGS. When I download the images via Bridge (import from device) I have to go through and select just the DNG files, which is an extra step it would be nice to be able to avoid.
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Hello - thank you for your feedback. DNG-only capture is on our roadmap and we'll have an updated release supporting this as soon as it is ready.
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Add me to the list of Android users who would love to try this. How about making it run on recent Pixel phones. I hear that one of you knows a thing or two about them 😉
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Hello - thank you for trying Project Indigo and for your thoughtful message. I will try to address the issues you raised in my reply:
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I’m using an iPhone 16 Pro, which shoots RAW (ProRAW) perfectly with the built-in Camera app. However, when I shoot with Project Indigo, even though I have the setting on DNG + JPEG, only the JPEG is saved — I don’t see any DNG to export or find in Files.
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Already asked and answered many times. If posters would use the search function, the community wouldnt be flooded with the same questions again and again.
Currently there is no separate dng.
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My iPhone saves images in Raw file format when I use the apple camera app but not when I use PI
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It does, if you've chosen to do so (button on the upper left). All you have to do is read this article https://gregbenzphotography.com/photography-reviews/project-indigo-the-best-camera-app-for-smart-pho... (that has been posted here multiple times) and follow the instructions on how to get the DNG to your computer.
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iPhone 15 Pro Max, Indigo 1.0.2. The settings gear icon is visible when I swipe left but doesn't remain visible. That menu bar always shifts right though to hide the gear icon., so it can't be pressed.
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Same here with my 14 pro. I posted UI issues a couple of days ago. I thought it's only an issue on non-Max phones but obviously it's a common problem.
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When will it be available in Japan?
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Hello Hugo - thank you for your interest in Project Indigo. As you may have read in the forum or in other comments, Indigo doesn't work well in Japan and South Korea at the moment because it produces a shutter sound every time it requests a raw frame. And to offer Zero Shutter Lag capture, it requests raw frames all the time (up to 30fps). We are working with Apple to remove these unnecessary shutter sounds, but until that is done, we cannot ship in those countries.
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iPhone 13 PM, iOS 18.5Good Camera app , the zoom quality is much better as the original. Urs the right way!
My iPhone Overheating always when i work with the app und the battery discharges quickly.
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Rick,
I'm wondering why I shouldn'tt shoot just JPEG. While RAW certainly gives me more information I rarely shoot images that cross over the exposure lines. I'm wondering what I could be losing with this "old man" approach? I really like the images I'm getting JUST in JPEG. So how to I approach the challenge?
Samples from a rainy day in Carolina.
Regards,
Frank Herzog
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Hello Frank - thank you for trying Project Indigo and for your stunning captures! These are really wonderful!
The truth is, if JPEG is sufficient for your needs, then keep capturing with JPEG-only. DNG is supposed to offer a few things in editing which JPEG does not, including things like more dynamic range (with less tone mapping, especially local tone mapping, baked in the image itself), ability to modify image temperature and tint better, control the amount of denoising you like, etc. Whether that matters or not is up to you. It may also not impact each image as much, so depending on your typical shooting scenes and conditions, you may benefit from raw DNG captures more or less.
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