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This post applies to the Project Indigo iOS camera app.
Adobe Labs is excited to share an early look at Project Indigo, an iPhone camera app we've started to develop, to get feedback from the photography community. The app offers full manual controls, a more natural ("SLR-like") look, and high image quality in both JPEG and raw formats. It also introduces some new photographic experiences not available in other camera apps. For more information on the underlying technology, please refer to this Project Indigo blog post.
Before you start with Project Indigo
Recipes for success when using Project Indigo
To get the maximum out of your images captured with the app, follow these guidelines:
Sending feedback
Please try the app and share feedback in this community forum thread. If you report a problem you encountered, it would help to include details like which device you are running Project Indigo on, what kind of scene you were trying to capture, what you were trying to achieve with the camera, and as much information as possible about what you like or do not like about the resulting photo quality. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues and improve future experiences.
To improve the performance and results of Project Indigo, it is important that examples of images that do not meet your expectations are forwarded to the team via your report. A large variety of file formats are allowed as attachments in these forum posts. The best option is to attach your image's raw file directly to your feedback post. Note that there is a 50 MB limit on an attachment's file size. If your raw file is too large to attach, the best option is to share the file via a file-sharing service (Dropbox or similar) and then share the link in your feedback post. Thank you for continuing to provide feedback on the Project Indigo camera!
Boris Ajdin: Product Manager, NextCam
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Just a quick question (that I haven't found an answer for in reading your docs): what's your preferred social media hashtag for PI pix? I post to BlueSky and Instagram... (@grenow)
Cheers
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Just a quick question (that I haven't found an answer for in reading your docs): what's your preferred social media hashtag for PI pix? I post to BlueSky and Instagram... (@grenow)
Cheers
By @Gareth Renowden
Hi Gareth - thank you for reaching out. Most commonly used one we see is #capturedwithIndigo.
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Today is official full moon so saw this incredible position and took using Night Mode, Pro Mode manual shutter, iso, 6 frames. Nothing else touched. The zoom is max obviously at 20x. The SOOC jpeg is pretty bad but the raw once heavily edited is usable. Lots of issues in the jpeg including color bleeding, shadow artifacts. Please fix the SR in the future. I will attach both.
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well this excess of digital zoom in night mode on a mini sensor is never going to produce a brilliant picture without hallucinating in a situation which is even for a full frame camera with decent lenses a difficult situation!
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Can't select lens when Pro control is enabled. I have to disable Pro control to switch lens
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Can't select lens when Pro control is enabled. I have to disable Pro control to switch lens
By @Exuberant_genius1513
That is by (current) design. We have to trade-off occupying a lot of viewfinder real estate, making it harder to frame, with less flexibility. Furthermore, when zooming you are not just changing the field of view: you may change which camera is being used (ultrawide, wide, or telephoto), with all 3 of them having different sensor and lens characteristics. Some of those characteristics may impact the Pro controls, so it becomes tricky to present all that to the user nicely. Having said that, just like the whole app itself, the UI is also experimental. We will be tweaking and tuning all aspects of the experience, including this, and if there is a good way to enable zoom changes while adjusting Pro controls, we will consider adding it.
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Hey! A quick question, is it normal that when using the 17 Pro's 4x lens you have to scoot back about 20 cm (8 inches) for the subject to be in focus? Adjusting focus with the pro mode doesn't change this.
Below are three photos. The one with the Indigo viewfinder show the same amount of blur that taking the image would yield after processing. The second one is from the native camera showing that it is in focus from the same distance. The third one is an Indigo shot where I moved as far back as needed to get the subject in focus, which was the previously mentioned 20 cm.
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Edit: looks like the photos uploaded out of order, but I hope you catch my drift.
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Edit: looks like the photos uploaded out of order, but I hope you catch my drift.
By @Pag0n
Native camera uses a nice "trick" to make you forget about the focus distance: they run what marketing calls a "fusion camera", where all 3 camera modules (ultrawide, wide, and telephoto) are active at the same time. This allows them to, amongst other things, detect when your subject is too close for the current camera and autimatically switch to a wider one. For example, if you are on a telephoto lens, they may under the hood switch you to the wide lens without informing you about it. If you are too close even for the wide camera, they will switch to the ultra-wide lens, and then you will see the small yellow Macro indicator in the bottom left. In any case, what you end up with, if you capture with the 4x zoom but the camera used to capture is wide, is that the wide camera is cropped to match the 4x FOV, and then it is upscaled back up to your taget image resolution - this will be a serviceable photo, but the effective detail in the image will be lower than the megapixels indicate. Indigo cannot run more than 1 camera in raw capture mode (iOS limitation), so we cannot seamlessly switch you back and forth. We offer a Macro suggestion once we detect that you are too close with your currently used lens, though that suggestion cannot be perfect for certain technical reasons related to how focus works and how cameras behave optically. To test what the true near focus distance is for each lens, open Indigo, switch to Pro mode, open focus control, and move closer to a subject until focus indicator shows 0. You will notice that for telephoto that distance is pretty far.
One additional interesting tidbit - iPhone not only changes the lens to help with the minimum focus distance: it may also change the lens to help with Night shots! Before iPhone 17-series, telephoto cameras were performing much worse in low light compared to wide cameras. Therefore it was beneficial for them to use the wide camera and digitally crop the FOV, as the image quality would be better than dealing with a super-noisy full 12MP telephoto image. I haven't experimented much with night shots on 17 telephoto camera, but it is much improved so the instances where the native camera would switch the lens may be reduced, or even completely removed.
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Thank you for the excellent response! Very helpful.
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LOVE Indigo! It has become my camera. Question: iPhone 17pro max with Indigo 8x (85mm) lens. IF I attach the Reeflex 240mm lens how many mm's do I wind up with? Sorry, my math skills deteriorated a long long time ago.
Frank
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