Workflow: Using both LR CC and Lightroom CC Classic - Sharing XMP data

[johnsonty]

Hello,

I am using both the newer Lightroom CC and Lightroom CC Classic.

My workflow involves handling the bulk of my catalog through the older Lightroom CC Classic. I do however now use the newer Lightroom CC to do quicker turnaround edits on the go (with mobile, web and desktop). However once I've finished with each project, I usually no longer need for it to be stored online/on the cloud.

My question is how do I easily save out the XMP data from an album/folder of images from Lightroom CC? I would then simply save those XMP files on the local hard drive system alongside the original raw files. From my current research and testing, it seems the only way to save out the XMP is through the File -> Save To function, but that requires exporting the original file also. Not particularly efficient when hoping to do a quick archive.

I can see a practice in the future where I would leave all my picked or 5 star images within Lightroom CC (and the cloud), but I do not want to retain entire shoots in the cloud.

Any thoughts on helping facilitate this workflow would be helpful.

Thanks,

Ty.

[johna76373788]

Hi there,

I have a similar question to you around xmp or writing the edit info to DNG.

While using LRmobile, after the edit is complete, I am able to save all original RAWs from my iPad, including the mobile catalog folder, using file sharing on iTunes, however when opened on CC desktop, non of the xmp or catalog info is shared. It immediately tries to syn to Cloud.

I wanted to know if there is a way from Lightroom mobile to save the edit immediately to a xmp or into the DNG (don’t mind converting), so when I copy across via usb to desktop or laptop, I can open in CC for desktop or classic and see edits on the RAW’s.

This obsession with adobe and sync drives me nuts. Try syncing 250gb of data, that’s even if you got a quick connection.

cheers,

[Jim Wilde]

It's not clear exactly how you're working here. If the images that you edit in LRCC are synced to or from LR Classic, then you can do the XMP save in Classic, no need to do it in LRCC (and as you've discovered, you can't do it there anyway except by exporting an original copy with settings). The only risk with doing the XMP save in Classic would be if you've entered non-syncing data such as keywords and location data in LRCC....but all edits will sync down to Classic, along with other stuff like flags/titles/captions, so an XMP save in Classic could suffice, no?

[johnsonty]

Thanks Jim.

To clarify, I am using LRCC and LR Classic independently. The aim is the following;

- First processing straight into LRCC (Cloud)

- Archive then imported into LR Classic, together with XMP files from the work done in LRCC (Hard drive system)

Thanks,

Ty.

[Jim Wilde · Accepted solution]

Well, doing it that way I think your only method of getting the LRCC edits into Classic is by exporting "original + settings" from LRCC, which you then import into Classic.

That's not the way I would do it, but I assume you have good reasons for not using the sync capabilities between LRCC and Classic?

I use a fully integrated workflow using Classic and LRCC, but even a restricted workflow would work more easily that the method you are using. All you have to do is enable syncing from the Classic catalog, you don't have to sync anything up to the cloud but all the images already in the cloud are automatically downloaded into Classic (complete with all edits). Once downloaded, you can remove them from LRCC if you don't want to keep them in the cloud, but the copy in Classic will remain....you'd be basically removing the need to first export them from LRCC and then import them into Classic.

[johnsonty]

Thanks Jim.

The logic behind the first import through LRCC is because I am usually on the go. I use LRCC on my phone, laptop, my partners laptop and online (any device handy).

My LR Classic catalog is maintained on my home office computer with a RAID HDD system, however I don’t frequently have access to this.

I wasn’t aware LR Classic could be synced with files imported through LRCC. I thought it only synced ones imported direct through LR Classic. This could be a solution, but I’m interested in how and where LR Classic would then save the LRCC files locally. I maintain all archive shoots through LR Classic by adding them from the RAID HDD (not copying).

Any photos I import into LRCC, I later copy onto my home office RAID HDD system. If LR Classic can save to this system syncing any/all LRCC work, this might be the ideal solution.

[Jim Wilde]

Well yes, LR Classic has been able to sync with the cloud ever since LRmobile was first introduced back in the LR5 cycle. It's not a "full member" of the cloud ecosystem, but it's still pretty useful once you understand the areas that don't sync (e.g. keywords and location data).

In Classic's Preferences>Lightroom Sync tab, there are options to change the storage location from the default (obscure location in the user's Pictures folder) to whatever you want. You can even use one of the Lightroom dated-folder schemes (I do this, which means any LRCC captures always end up inside my standard Classic folder scheme, no manual effort involved).

So capture on phone, open Classic later and find the capture has arrived and is in the place it would be if I imported it from camera card. Edit from any synced device.

[johnsonty]

I'll take a look at the LR Classic options to sync the LR CC work. Thanks.

As the other user pointed out, downloading all the files again on my home computer is a lot slower than just manually copying the files onto my RAID HDD system.

If Adobe could introduce a Save To or Export "settings only" feature for all selected photos (whole folder), that would be the best solution. This would handle my needs for the time being.

Thanks.

[johna76373788]

Hi Jim,

For many sync is not an option, I’m often in places with no connection, or away from ones desktop for a long period of time. Even if sync is possible, if you’ve shot 200gb worth of images and done all editing on your iPad, it would take ages to export the full raw and edit info into classic via cloud, not practical at all. Many want to start and finish on their mobile devices like iPad Pro and because we can only export 15 edited jpgs at a time, we need a way of quickly syncing into either desktop cc or classic, but creative cloud is simply not useable.

The least adobe should allow is to save a xmp for each image in Lightroom mobile and save it next to the originals, so when one copies origanls off their iPad, onto their desktops, the edits will appear when importing.

You mentioned save original + settings in cc or mobile? Where is this feature found? I only see save original which doesn’t include any xmp or settings in both camera RAW or DNG.

thanks for your reply.

[Jim Wilde]

johna76373788  wrote

You mentioned save original + settings in cc or mobile? Where is this feature found? I only see save original which doesn’t include any xmp or settings in both camera RAW or DNG.

thanks for your reply.

It's available in the "Save to" dialog in the LRCC desktop app.

[johna76373788]

Thanks Jim, what a pity it’s not included on LRmobile. including this in mobile would be a game changer for many.

[Antphoto]

my aim is the same