P: Assign People tags to pictures that were missed

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Once the indexing has been completed and Lightroom CC has found all the potential faces, it would be nice to have the ability to add People Tags to pictures that were "missed" where no faces were recognized.  The idea of People Tags is to be able to search for people and generate all potential results.  Right now it's messy because you have to resort to keyword tags to identify people that were missed with facial recognition and makes searching and cataloging a tedious task.

[Jim Wilde]

You will only see the "People" section listed above Keywords, when the Keywords panel is showing, IF the facial recognition software has in fact detected one or more faces in that selected image. So, if you have an image that contains faces, but there are no faces listed above the keywords when you display the Keywords panel, then that would mean that the face recognition software has failed to detect the face. In that situation, there is nothing you can do at this time, as it is not possible to manually draw a face region.

[Timothy.Spear]

On the old feedback forum, there was an idea posted to allow uses to tag images with "people" but not draw a region.

The current hack solution is to duplicate the data by having people in keywords when fatial fails to regonize, and also in people. This cause problems in the search aspect when looking later due ot how teh search engine works.

Tim

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Is this the thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-ecosystem-cloud-based-ideas/lightroom-desktop-tag-undetecte... 

[Timothy.Spear]

@Rikk Flohr: Photography 

This thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-ecosystem-cloud-based-ideas/lightroom-desktop-assign-people...

Tim

[Patbeau]

Hi

Thanks for your response. I don't want to draw anything to help the face recognition module to do his job. It's not gonna do it...All I wanna do, is to have the hability to manually match some photos (with no face recognition results) to persons. It will allow me to find the photos of my children even during the days of Halloween !!

[Timothy.Spear]

@Patbeau 

In the joined thread, that is the thrust of the conversation; being able to track images against the people feature; even when Sensai fails to find the individual.

I did break it down into more details above of the value for specific parts of the functionality if you are very curious..

Tim

[dank87557784]

What is the rational behind this being declined?  Please be specific.

Dan

[Timothy.Spear]

@dank87557784 

Make sure to upvote the issue.

Adobe often states they look at the number of upvotes an issue gets ot find the importance of it. And besides ranting on here, this is really the only thing we can do. So upvote it, and get your friends to also!

Tim

[dank87557784]

I'm not sure you're answering my question.  Why would this be marked as "Declined" if there wasn't internal discussion where the functionality was considered and rejected?  I'm asking specifically why the status was changed to "Declined"?  Given that this functionality is available in other similar Adobe products, this entry has been open for at least three years, and most people taking the time to post stated they would not use the application until the issue was addressed, I'm curious specifically what the issue was with incorporating this functionality into the product.

Also, for future reference, is there internal review criteria that we customers should be aware of?  As a user of the Adobe Support Community area, I would like to understand the Upvote thresholds for my entries to get any sort of visibility.  Is this entry close....like 110 votes gets another re-assessment...or is the criteria 1000, or 10,000, or 100,000 upvotes before this would be re-assessed?

[Timothy.Spear]

Since I do not work for Adobe, I cannot answer any of those questions.

However, I have seen Adobe respond to customer pressure and interest. So, Adobe employees have stated multiple times the way to get visibility of an issue is to upvote it.

So, that is all we can do, unless you have connections others of us do not.

Tim

[dank87557784]

Apologies Tim, I should be specific...I'm asking this of Adobe, and specifically, Rikk Flohr, or another Adobe employee that is being notified of these updates.  I've Upvoted this issue and others, but don't know that it really makes a difference.  The person that started this three years ago KNOWS it doesn't make a difference.

[Timothy.Spear]

@dank87557784 

No issue.

@Rikk Flohr: Photography 

Any chance at an answer. And since you (or another Adobe employee) merged all these threads together, has the answer changed?

Tim

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

If/When an answer changes, the thread will be updated and the status changed. 

The threads are merged to give a single source for Product Management to evaluate feature requests.

[georgiosa42941452]

The problem is very simple: photos that contain clear faces remain unrecognized.

Moreover, there is no way to inform lightroom that a specific photo contains a face.

Unfortunately, the face recognition feature is unreliable.

[georgiosa42941452]

What is this? You merged my post in a general thread about face recognition and problem solved?

Nice customer support. You know that we pay for this product, right?

[Victoria Bampton LR Queen]

@georgiosa42941452 Sorry, I think that was me, and my extra bit of blurb explaining why didn't get included. This is the feature request thread for the feature that you are requesting - the ability to manually add people tags to faces that were missed. You can add your vote using the button in the top right corner. The number of votes on a feature request does influence future additions, so every vote counts. 

[georgiosa42941452]

But as you can see, I mentioned a problem in my post "photos that contain clear faces remain unrecognized". And there a lot of photos that are left out.

Aren't you going to solve or at least commnet on this?

[dank87557784]

This has been a known issue since at least Oct, 2018.  Referring to my previous post, what is the criteria for an issue getting visibility in front of decision makers?  This functionality was declined and now does not have a status. What was the discussion around going from Declined to No Status. Is the issue being analyzed?  How is Adobe planning to address this issue?

[peter-b]

Just to wade in here to support Rikk and Victoria -- I am a Product Manager on the Lightroom team.  We work with Rikk to review this forum including feature requests.  We definitely hear you that we can make improvements both in the face detection tech as well as supporting manual face selection.  We do use the feedback and votes to help determine our priorities, so please know that you are being listened to.  

Additionally, I guess when we migrated forum data, we ended up marking some features as "Declined" which sets the wrong expectation of never considering.  This work is indeed under consideration for future releases.  I asked to update that info, so apologies if there is confusion here.

Hopefully that clears things up.  Please keep the feedback coming.

Thanks,

Peter

[Timothy.Spear]

@peter-b 

Nice to see you baking up Rikk and Victoria. So we can blame you for the feature request languashing for more than four years? 🙂

Honestly, break it down. We do not need everything solved, but we do need a way to handle cleanly getting around failures in the AI people features. And duplicating names in Keywords is not clean.

Tim

[peter-b]

We do have some investigation in this area, but don't have anything ready to share yet. 

-Peter

[eben22]

My goal is to get all my photos into the LR cloud ecostructure.  After reading through this thread I've determined the AI people tagging system is a fun idea for the marketing team to push but useless unless you can manually add people tags and combine people tags.  So my solution I think is to use regular tags for people and embedding those tags into my exif in windows before uploading to the LR cloud.  I have also discovered that descriptive filenames aren't a help as LR won't search for a piece of text within a filename.  So tags seem to be the best way to accomplish this.  

[parato]

It is January 2022.  Any update?

[parato]

I really do not understand your product management philosophy ... deleting essential features like manual face selection when creating a newer version of the product.  It is MANUAL for crying out loud.  Grab the old routine and get a summer intern to stick it into the next release.
I spent 3 WEEKS migrating from Lightroom Classic to Lightroom CC.  Your synch logic is atrocious.  Spent more hours talking with support than my family.  Had to restart many times, delete synch record files.
Then... once all my files are in place... SO MANY FEATURES MISSING?!?!  What is going on?  It's like Ford saying hey, we have this new clean electric car... but it drives like a model T.
I don't know if Adobe mangement have lost their minds of if Adobe product development hired programers don't work with photographs.

[parato]

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