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FreeTransform/TransformWarp - AntiAliasing Bug and Artifacts

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Sep 20, 2022 Sep 20, 2022

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Photoshop has some serious AntiAliasing problems with FreeTransform/TransformWarp...
Photoshop renders the Transformation not smooth with AntiAliasing, it shows broken Lines and Artifacts etc...
(See attached Screenshots!) 😞

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Sep 21, 2022 Sep 21, 2022

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Hi @Christian1979,

 

Can you give more info on the file you're working with or maybe provide a sample file for us to test with?

 

I'm seeing some pixelation, but nothing out of the ordinary for raster images in my testing.

 

Can you also provide more info on which Photoshop beta version you're working with?

Is this any different in the general release of Photoshop (23.5.1)?

 

Regards,

Pete

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Sep 21, 2022 Sep 21, 2022

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Hi Pete 🙂

 

yes sure!

Here are two Sample-Files (FreeTransform and TransformWarp there you can see the Artifacts):

Photoshop AntiAliasing Bug

 

I use the latest released Photoshop Version, but also the latest Beta.

But this Problem happens since a long time back...

 

Another strange Thing:

For a Comparison I have done the Transform with the "Perspective Warp", there are the same broken Lines/Artifacts, but if I'm in the "Edit-Mode" then the Transform is rendered smooth! But if I finally render it, then the broken Lines etc are again visible!

That means Photoshop has a AntiAliasing Bug with all Transform/Warp Tools (FreeTransform, TarnsformWarp, PerspecticeWarp etc.) if they are finally rendered!

 

Here you can see a Video:

First I show the "FreeTransform" Artifacts, then I show "PerspectiveWarp" in Edit-Mode, where everything is smooth until I render the final Result 😉

Photoshop_Transform_Antialiasing_Bug.mov

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Adobe Employee ,
Sep 23, 2022 Sep 23, 2022

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Thanks for the sample file @Christian1979, apologies for the delayed response while testing it.

So far the antialiasing that I'm seeing looks mostly reasonable given I'm unsure of the origination of the content in this file. 

Note: I'm viewing this at 100% zoom, and with most any raster image, the further in you zoom, the more you'll see pixelation that might include jagged edges. 

 

PeteGreen_0-1663966932310.png

 

Not sure I'm seeing a bug here, but would be curious if a preference reset changes the behavior you're seeing at all?

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html#Manually
If that doesn't solve it, you can quit Photoshop and put the Settings folder back.

 

Let us know how that goes.

Regards,

PG

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Sep 25, 2022 Sep 25, 2022

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Hi Pete,

even with 100% View (remember on a Retina-Display you have to set to 200% to see the real 100%-Size), the Interpolation look not smooth!

 

The jagged Edges, boken Lines, Artifacts are still clearly visible...

 

I show you below a Comparison how smooth antialiased Edges should look like:

I currently use a "Workaround" to fix this broken Lines/Artifacts, (but it is not recommended in a real workflow because it is not flexible).

1.) Open the Image

2.) Dublicate the Image and resize it to 1200dpi!

3.) Rasterize the Smart-Layer and resize the picture to 300dpi

4.) Copy the rasterized layer to the Main-Document!

=> Now there is a rasterized Layer-Copy with smooth Lines and no Artifacts!

 

But this procedure is not a good Soultion, because we don't want to rasterize the Smart-Layer!

And Adobe should finally fix this bad AnitiAliaising so we finally could make Transforms without Artifacts...

 

Here you see now the Comparison:

 

Comparison_AntiAliasing.jpg

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Sep 26, 2022 Sep 26, 2022

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Thanks for the added detail @Christian1979,

 

Is this rasterization in the beta any different in the general release of Photoshop (23.5.1)?

 

Regards,

Pete

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Sep 26, 2022 Sep 26, 2022

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The Rasterization is the same in the Beta and also in the Public Release!

But this Problem raimaines for a long, long time! This Bug has been introduced several Years ago, I have sended in a Bug-Report several times, but it has been always ignored...

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Sep 26, 2022 Sep 26, 2022

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Free Transform introduce (again) unintended Warping in some Cases (see Video):

FreeTransform_Bug.mov 

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Select a Layer and choose "Free Transform"
2. Bring the Perspektive in a similar way like on my Screenshots
3. Then you should see the unintended Warping

Actual Result: Unintended Warping

Expected Result: Free Transform without Warping

 

Here you can download the Original layered TIF-File:

FreeTransform_Sample.tif 

 

 

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Sep 29, 2022 Sep 29, 2022

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Thanks for the additional report Christian. I've merged the two threads together for now so we can keep these Transform behavior conversations in one place and have asked one of our engineers to take a look.

Will circle back when I have more details.

 

Thank you!

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Can you provide Photoshop's Help > System Info dialog text here as well to aid in our investigation @Christian1979 ?

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Oct 04, 2022 Oct 04, 2022

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yes sure 🙂

Here is the SysInfo (latest Public Version):

 

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CmdN: 1.13.2
CDP: 1.149.0
Projects: 1.4.5 Geladen nach: 113 ms – Einfluss auf die Startzeit: 96 ms Content Credentials (Geladen) 0.31.6.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" Geladen nach: 4019 ms – Einfluss auf die Startzeit: 0 ms ccx-timeline (Vorbereitet) 3.0.3.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Geladen) 23.6.0.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" Geladen nach: 4019 ms – Einfluss auf die Startzeit: 0 ms CCX Sharesheet UXP (Vorbereitet) 23.12.0.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" Share Panel (Geladen) 1.0.3.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" Geladen nach: 114 ms – Einfluss auf die Startzeit: 0 ms CC Libraries Panel (Vorbereitet) 3.21.13.0 - von der Datei "/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13/" CAPTURE: 2.0.41 STOCK: 4.0.2 Photoshop UXP Export-As (Vorbereitet) 5.8.13.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" Photoshop In App Messaging (Geladen) 2.7.5.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" Geladen nach: 4019 ms – Einfluss auf die Startzeit: 0 ms Photoshop Selection Feedback (Vorbereitet) 0.5.0.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" Plugins Panel (Vorbereitet) 1.4.3.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" IC popup message (Geladen) 1.0.0.0 Geladen nach: 3832 ms – Einfluss auf die Startzeit: 0 ms Multilayer Protection (Geladen) 1.0.0.0 Geladen nach: 3832 ms – Einfluss auf die Startzeit: 0 ms Discover Panel (Geladen) 2.9.0.29 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" Geladen nach: 4023 ms – Einfluss auf die Startzeit: 10 ms Photoshop Cloud Value Dialog (Geladen) 1.0.1.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" Geladen nach: 4890 ms – Einfluss auf die Startzeit: 0 ms Neural Filters (Eingetragen) 1.13.3.0 - von der Datei "Erforderlicher Ordner" Erweiterungen: Bibliotheken 1.0.0 – aus der Datei “/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13/index.html” com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 1.0.0 – aus der Datei “/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13/extensions/stock-panel-licensing/index.html” com.adobe.capture.extension 2.0.41 – aus der Datei “/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13/extensions/capture/capture.html” Exportieren als 4.8.15 – aus der Datei “/Applications/Adobe Photoshop 2022/Adobe Photoshop 2022.app/Contents/Resources/CEP/extensions/com.adobe.photoshop.crema/index.html” Exportieren als 4.8.15 – aus der Datei “/Applications/Adobe Photoshop 2022/Adobe Photoshop 2022.app/Contents/Resources/CEP/extensions/com.adobe.photoshop.crema/index.html” com.adobe.cclibraries.manager 1.0.0 – aus der Datei “/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CEP/extensions/CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_21_13/manager.html” Installierte TWAIN-Geräte: KEINE

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Jan 18, 2023 Jan 18, 2023

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Hi Pete 🙂

Are there some News about the two Bugs?

 

The unintended Warping drives me crazy every Day 😞

And the bad Antialiasing as well...

 

Is it planned to finally fix this soon?

 

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Hi @Pete.Green ,

can I get an Info how is the progress of this two Bugs?

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