Generative Fill being hyper-sensitive?

[Michael30663947sjbj]

Hi!

Is the Generative Fill feature more restrictive now? There seems to be a lot of things I could create in the base PhotoShop that the Beta flat out rejects. Further, it seems like these rejections are random, and that's really frustrating - especially since it takes the program 10 seconds to say "no". It's really annoying. I've always had issues with PhotoShop blocking otherwise inocous prompts, but the current Beta release takes it to the next level. What's going on, will this be adressed, and will there be more clarity provided? 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Can you share some examples of prompts that failed?

[Michael30663947sjbj]

"Swimsuit", honestly. I can understand why Adobe is sensitive with that prompt - fine. But the applications seem inconsistent. I got the top three to work - even one with an exposed midriff, but the last one it didn't want to do anything. And that's what I find frustrating - I have no idea when it'll work and when it won't. I get the same problem with reference images - sometimes bikinis are fine, sometimes they're not. Sometimes one-pieces are fine, and sometimes they're not. Again, I can understand why Adobe is being sensitive - fine. But I want consistency. (I blacked out the person's face since they were photos from an event; the first two are from stock pictures).

[Michael30663947sjbj]

It's stuff like this that bugs me. Possibly racy image, sure, but if you look at the selection I was trying to cover her up. Even a blank prompt didn't work in Beta. Went to the current (stable) version of PhotoShop - 25.7 - and it filled it in for me. And, again, it's not consistent. It's really driving me nuts.

[Michael30663947sjbj]

Sorry I'm new to this... I should've uploaded this as a picture. Anyway, Beta wouldn't fill it, but stable PhotoShop will.

[Matthew249224202mcs]

Will there ever be a time when you can turn off community guidelines for the private use of the software you're continuously paying for?

Having to convince Photoshop that I'm not making explicit content is pretty frustrating.

And for that matter, why is there a nudity/blood/weapons/violence policing of my software in the first place?

If the image generated isn't what Adobe wants in their source pool, don't save it.

As a final insult, I wasn't allowed to post this question without first removing the 4 letter p.word which refers to explicit nudity... Just... really?

[Michael30663947sjbj]

Yeah, I understand. Even moreso when it's confusing about what's allowed and what isn't, and what that thing makes anyway.

[Erek_E]

Same here. I had both apps opened simultaneously and Beta blocked most of the prompts but photoshop allowed them. 

[Michael30663947sjbj]

See, it's crap like this that drives me nuts. Don't know what's wrong, processor takes 10-15 seconds to reject it, and I'm pulling my hair in frustration. I know this is Firefly, not PhotoShop Beta, but I'm getting the same type of errors in Photoshop Beta. Anyone?

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Is the screenshot browser window your image and you have the rights to edit/use? You should review the AI guidelines for using third party images.

https://www.adobe.com/legal/licenses-terms/adobe-gen-ai-user-guidelines.html

[Michael30663947sjbj]

It's a screenshot I took, and I've done this many times before without any issue. I just feel like there's no consistency with what Adobe blocks and what it doesn't, and I'm irritated that I have to wait 10-15 seconds each time to find that out.

[Sean August Horvath]

it is AI and it sort of has a mind of its own and will move in different directions over time. 

I'm making fashion images and NO SPEEDOS except like once randomly in a blue moon. 

Which is a real bummer because when they first released FireFly it was what art should be. Throwing dudes in dresses and heels -- not like you needed to use the image. But there has definitely been a shift that they are in some way influencing, even as AI shifts on it's own. 

It is really frustraiting. 

Sometimes I have to litereally write out a gay sob story to play into the stereotype and it'll generate "gay" things — which, a speedo is not, I mean there were more straight men on the beach with speedos last year than the year before and so on — and like other countries. And even shorts like litereally normal shorts, especially for a fashion lookbook are a 5-7" inseam but it refuses to put shorts over the dudes knee which is like 90s and I just get to angry because WHO is this helping and protecting and when did ART become this. I've been experimenting using OpenSource and, it is okay I mean you get what you want but like, it is so literal. I miss when Adobe wasn't crazy ... like 5 years ago? I've been using it for a decade at least. I stopped paying twice and they give a free month because like the creative process they force is the opposite of flow and ugh I could go on for hours I am just so dissapointed in them. Particuarly like, they *could* know who is doing what. I'd be happy to share my projects. There are a million other solutions and they just half their censorship, it's just.. I mean they have been all around disappointing to the max since AI. Once I master the learning curve for Stable Diffusion, which seems more about finding a model to download with it, I'm so out. 

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