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P: Photoshop 23.3 is slow and heavy

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Engaged ,
Apr 12, 2022 Apr 12, 2022

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The current Photoshop version is very slow.

(It was fast and accurate until version PS 21.0.3, and the problem began after that)

 

1. Hand tool(=press space bar) and move area is slow (ofcousre disable panning)

2. liquify zoom(There is a delay once when zooming in more than 50%. Unconditionally, Version 21.0.3 is smooth no lag)

3. layer toggle visable slow (Ctrl + ,) its React one beat slower. (This part until version PS2015.5. 2015.5 is really fast and smooth everything. Check this.....)

 

I don't know why if I have to pay my monthly subscription and work harder.

Some say. Don't update it unconditionally, report people's reactions.

Yes. i do, and i did.
Always leave the previous version and update to the latest version. But I always use the previous version. It is now 2022. Until when should my working environment stay in 2015.5 Photoshop or 2020 Photoshop?

 

I've done dozens of reinstallations, and I've done dozens of computer formats. Regardless of the type of computer, this was a problem with the Photoshop version. It wasn't even a plug-in problem.(disable native canavs thing is already try... 😃 )

It's not abut my pc. 
I tested it on everyone's computer I know and I got the same conclusion.
(Ryzen5600x, 5900x, intel 12900k, imac, m1 mini ... etc all the same)


CHECK this , and fix Please. How many more years should I wait...?

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when i try zoom in(out), lag or frezeez a momment.
ps23.2, it's not my computer's problem. It was okay until the previous version.
window10 user, and already turn off native canvas ruller things. tried reset.

Have to Fix this!

And one more thing...

Why can't use "Scrubby Zoom" in liquify?
This is a very old problem. This will also have to be fixed.

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if you need my info, check this.

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Required plugins:

Accented Edges 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Adaptive Wide Angle 23.2 - from the file “Adaptive Wide Angle.8bf”
Angled Strokes 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
ApplyImageDataFilter 17.0 - from the file “GigapixelAIApply_x64.8bf”
Average 23.2 - from the file “Average.8bf”
Bas Relief 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
BMP 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Camera Raw 14.2 - from the file “Camera Raw.8bi”
Camera Raw Filter 14.2 - from the file “Camera Raw.8bi”
Chalk && Charcoal 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Charcoal 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Chrome 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Cineon 23.2 - from the file “Cineon.8bi”
Clouds 23.2 - from the file “Clouds.8bf”
Color Halftone 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Colored Pencil 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Conté Crayon 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Craquelure 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Crop and Straighten Photos 23.2 - from the file “CropPhotosAuto.8li”
Crop and Straighten Photos Filter 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Crosshatch 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Crystallize 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Cutout 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Dark Strokes 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
De-Interlace 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Dicom 23.2 - from the file “Dicom.8bi”
Difference Clouds 23.2 - from the file “Clouds.8bf”
Diffuse Glow 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Displace 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Dry Brush 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Entropy 23.2 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Export Color Lookup Tables 23.2 - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
Extrude 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
FastCore Routines 23.2 - from the file “FastCore.8bx”
Fibers 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Film Grain 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Filter Gallery 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Fresco 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
GatherImageDataFilter 17.0 - from the file “GigapixelAIGather_x64.8bf”
Glass 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Glowing Edges 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Grain 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Graphic Pen 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Halftone Pattern 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Halide Bottlenecks 23.2 - from the file “HalideBottlenecks.8bx”
HDRMergeUI 23.2 - from the file “HDRMergeUI.8bf”
HSB/HSL 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
IFF Format 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
IGES 23.2 - from the file “U3D.8bi”
Ink Outlines 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
JPEG 2000 23.2 - from the file “JPEG2000.8bi”
Kurtosis 23.2 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Lens Blur 23.2 - from the file “Lens Blur.8bf”
Lens Correction 23.2 - from the file “Lens Correction.8bf”
Lens Flare 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Liquify 23.2 - from the file “Liquify.8bf”
Material Filter NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialFilter.8bf”
Matlab Operation 23.2 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Maximum 23.2 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Mean 23.2 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Measurement Core 23.2 - from the file “MeasurementCore.8me”
Median 23.2 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Mezzotint 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Minimum 23.2 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
MMXCore Routines 23.2 - from the file “MMXCore.8bx”
Mosaic Tiles 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Multiprocessor Support 23.2 - from the file “MultiProcessor Support.8bx”
Neon Glow 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Note Paper 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
NTSC Colors 23.2 - from the file “NTSC Colors.8bf”
Ocean Ripple 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
OpenEXR 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Paint Daubs 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Palette Knife 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Patchwork 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Paths to Illustrator 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
PCX 23.2 - from the file “PCX.8bi”
Photocopy 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Picture Package Filter 23.2 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Pinch 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Pixar 23.2 - from the file “Pixar.8bi”
Plaster 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Plastic Wrap 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Pointillize 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Polar Coordinates 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Portable Bit Map 23.2 - from the file “PBM.8bi”
Poster Edges 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
PRC 23.2 - from the file “U3D.8bi”
Radial Blur 23.2 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Radiance 23.2 - from the file “Radiance.8bi”
Range 23.2 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Render Color Lookup Grid 23.2 - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
Reticulation 23.2 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Retouch4me Clean Backdrop 1.0 - from the file “Retouch4me Clean Backdrop.8bf”
Retouch4me Dodge&Burn 1.0 - from the file “Retouch4me Dodge Burn.8bf”
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Mar 12, 2022 Mar 12, 2022

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If you go to Preferences > Technology Previews... and uncheck "Enable Native Canvas Rulers" and restart Photoshop, does the problem persist?


Senior Product Manager - Customer Advocacy - Digital Imaging

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Mar 12, 2022 Mar 12, 2022

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As written in the text, we have already tried all solutions from Adobe.

Same issue =(

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Mar 18, 2022 Mar 18, 2022

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Photoshop version 23.2.2
I don't know when this bug starting exactly. (But i guess... from 23.2?)
Delay or Lag It happens unconditionally when try zoom more than 50% in liquify.(it's mean 66.7 or 100%~).
It doesnt matter way(= mouse, or keyboard shortcut or wacom tablet everything).

 

My image size is mostly from 6000x4000px~. And previous version is well done for me.(i mean ps2021, 2020, 2019, 2018~)

Windows10 user, Ryzen5600x, Ram 128GB, NvmeSSD, 2070super GPU.

No install plug in. And already try reset setting and reinstall =(. But it's same.

 

There is a delay when zooming in more than 50% every time i'm work.

Of course, the delay is not long. For about a second.

BUT!!!

There is inevitably a delay of 1 second per picture, and liquify is used up to 10 times when working on 1 picture. IT'S VERY BAD NEWS FOR ME.

 

FIX THIS PLEASE...

 

btw, If i select a small area(use marquee or lasso thing) and run a separate liquify, that's fine.

But I don't want to do that, and I haven't done that. Because the specifications of my computer are very good, it always worked smoothly in the whole area without selection.

And one more thing is... i tried make Small size(1000px), and it's no delay.

Is there something wrong with the rendering method of loading the photo? If it exceeds a certain size, it will unconditionally slow down. However, most of the photos I work on are at least 6000x4000, which is absolutely impossible to work with a smaller size depending on the customer's request.

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Mar 18, 2022 Mar 18, 2022

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It may help if we could see your Photoshop System Info. Launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info...and copy/paste the text in a reply.


Senior Product Manager - Customer Advocacy - Digital Imaging

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Mar 18, 2022 Mar 18, 2022

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I also pasted the info into the inquiry I posted a few days ago. The difference here is that there is no plug-in and change memory usage(it just test). Other than that, it's all the same. And what's important is not only my computer, but also when I run it and test it on other Windows computers, it's all the same. Everyone I know talks about the bug. Should I bring all their info? I don't think it's meaningful. This is an internal defect....

 

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Mar 30, 2022 Mar 30, 2022

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Tried other computer, but it's same(win,mac). 
I even reinstalled Windows as well as Photoshop. =(

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Apr 13, 2022 Apr 13, 2022

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Sorry to hear about the troubles.

- Is this happening on a particular file or in all scenarios?

- Is this a comparison between two recent Photoshop versions, or a comparison of Photoshop 2015 against new versions?

 

If you have any sample files that you can share, that would be helpful in diagnosing the issues. Also, please share with us your system info (launch Photoshop, and select Help >System Info, then copy/paste the text in a reply). This in turn helps the team prioritize what type of performance improvements to work on as well as determine if there is specific hardware that is struggling. 

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Apr 13, 2022 Apr 13, 2022

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all scenarios <<< (Except for one thing when image is small, like lone edge pixel 1200?)

(but that's really small file, Basically, the pictures taken are over 3000px =( )

And i'm talking about the current version(23.3). 
The reason why I mentioned a specific version(shch as ps21.0.3 is no liquify lag, ps2015.5 is no lag when layer toggle) as an example is to inform you of a stable version that does not cause delays or problems.

I think the layer toggle delay bug that occurred after ps2015.5 was caused by the change of engine inside Photoshop, and I also know that it is not easy to solve it.

 

BUT, must fix that Liquify zoom lag...

I like the specifications of the computer, so there is only a short delay, but most people say that when zoom in more than 50%, there is a delay of at least 3 to 5 seconds.... isn't normal.

And i think it's not just delay. I felt like needed time to load the liquify once I ran it.
So, What I suggest is this. Something seems to be wrong with the code that loads the image when you run LiquiPi. I think it's better to focus on this part and fix the bug.

It's the same when there's only one layer, not dozens of layers. That's what happens with all the files of a typical size, and it's not just me, it's the people I know, and it's going through a lot of people in communities like Reddit.

 

 

 

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Apr 13, 2022 Apr 13, 2022

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When Zoom over 50%, you can see delay
PS2022 test (problem current version)

 

PS2020 test (stable version 21.0.3)

 

PS2015.5 test

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Apr 16, 2022 Apr 16, 2022

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Laptop +eGPU(window11), imac m1
There is a delay like the video attached by the writer.

Don't know how many times I reinstalled everything. This is killing me.

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Apr 17, 2022 Apr 17, 2022

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Same issues here. For example, for a treouch I'm doing on some images now, I create a new blank layer, then hit "V" (move tool), then "3" to set opacity to 30%, then "B" to switch to the move tool. after hitting the B key I have to wait several seconds before the tool switches. Or if I need to use the hand tool to reposition or +/- to zoom, I have to wait several seconds for Photoshop to catch up. Previous version (which I just re-instaled) I can go from step step all teh way through with no delays. Very bad when you're editing 60+ images. 

Dell XPS 15 9500
Core i7 8 core
nvidia 1650 ti GPU

64G ram

Windows 11

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Apr 18, 2022 Apr 18, 2022

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Please, can you work overtime to fix it, or go back to the previous version, can't stand it, !!!!!!!!!!!

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Apr 18, 2022 Apr 18, 2022

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Same issue on here. "must fix liquify zoom laggy"
When I first experienced this phenomenon, I thought my computer was broken. So I even bought a new computer! lol 
I wasn't satisfied with Adobe's monthly subscription service, so I spent a 2000$ to get a better computer, but the results were the same.

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Apr 22, 2022 Apr 22, 2022

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image depth 16bit. And size is mostly 4000~7000px. 

window10 / ryzen5600x /  ram128gb /  gpu 2070super / 1tb ssd for Scratch disk

 

Most work in 15 to 20 layers. (Sometimes more is needed. Because I have to leave the process to edit it at any time when client requests a change something)

 

But I don't know when. It doesn't apply heavy filters to cpu or graphic cards, but simply using hand tools on the canvas to move the screen, or even small-sized brushes or clone stamping (from when there are more than 5 layers)

(There are times when the delay goes from 0.5 seconds to 10 seconds. If I have to wait 10 seconds for every task, how much more time do I have to spend working on my entire picture? If you actually have 20 minutes to work on, I think that's also 20 minutes if you add up the remaining 10 seconds of delay.)

 

Okay. I and you know about this. 16bit workflow need more ram, more hdd or ssd storage becausre really hard work.

But Until a few years ago, there was no delay in my work even if there were more than 50 layers instead of 5layer. =(

 

These are the ones I've tried.

1. reset all setting prefs, reinstall photoshop

2. reinstall windows manytimes

3. reinstall other gpu driver

4. test other device(shch as intel cpu setup, mac mini , mac pro, imac)

5. no plug in, no extension

6. dont need our log. because System logs are meaningless because they have been newly installed and tested on various types of computers.

 

Everything had the same result. It's slow. Specifications are good enough and there's no reason to be slow. Because it wasn't slow before. Then this isn't my fault. Something went wrong with Photoshop being updated.

 

My job is to use Photoshop, and I pay Adobe every month to use Photoshop, a means accordingly. Adobe offers many functions and conveniences and feels grateful for them. But most Retoucher like me don't need that kind of convenience. Rather, we need to improve our working environment. It's not exactly an improvement, it's a return to its original speed.

 

I want to get a reasonable result on what I paid. Thank you.

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Apr 22, 2022 Apr 22, 2022

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When I was working on Photoshop at Mac OS, even if I made more than 10 layers, it was less cut off. Should I say it's softer? But that's a long time ago. In the past, people who used Adobe programs recommended buying Macs as much as possible, and I also told people around me that. But I use both Windows and Mac and now I feel that Photoshop is causing a lot of discomfort in my work every minute and every second.

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Apr 22, 2022 Apr 22, 2022

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And it's true that 8 bits have less delay than 16 bits. But it's also very slow and difficult when there are more than 20 layers. If you open the task manager, my Cpu, Ram, and gpu are very relaxed. But Photoshop is having a hard time.
Someone could say this. "Change the image mode to 8 bits." "Put the layers together merge." "Reduce the size of the image size."
Yes, I want to do that too. However, you must preserve the job history. I think it's ridiculous to tell my client that we need to work on it again from the beginning because that part is a Photoshop issue.
And it goes without saying that because it was so soft and fast until a few years ago. (Every computer I had worked fine. The current file size and 16-bit work environment were all the same. The only thing that has changed is the Photoshop version)

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Apr 22, 2022 Apr 22, 2022

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And photoshop 2015.5 is a really good environment and an example of an update, but 2018 (19.1.6) is also a good example if you can't go back to that pace.
Version that can be the basis for updates : ps21.0.3 or 19.1.6

Do you know why I suggest a specific version?

Because I installed and tested all the versions I could, all the builds, and I found some versions that were not restricted in actual use and had no bugs.


This is not a limited version of liquify zoom.

The Two version(ps21.0.3 or 19.1.6) is very stable and faster than Compared to all the versions up to now(23.3.1)

liquify zoom lag bug, layer toggle visibility lag, zoom and hand tool lag, Just all the thing delay slow in 16bit workflow, also If there are more than 20 layers, it's lagging

 

There are many differences even in a typical environment that is not heavy. Based on my suggestion, please improve the working environment compared to the previous code.

 

thanks and plz help us.

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Apr 22, 2022 Apr 22, 2022

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Hi @Jqqerry ,

I'm sorry for the slow experience you are having.  Can you try disabling Preferences -> Performance -> Multithreaded Compositing?

Sincerely,

Andrew

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Apr 22, 2022 Apr 22, 2022

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yes.Not only that, but I've done everything I can to turn it on and off in all the settings one by one. I don't have variables.

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Apr 23, 2022 Apr 23, 2022

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@Andrew Sender  also Just in case i just wonering, it's maybe a problem with the storage device??, and I changed nvm2, normal ssd, normal hdd, and so on, and I changed the scratch disk, but it's the same result. It's so hard. Please help me quickly.

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Apr 23, 2022 Apr 23, 2022

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Select and Mask Crash everyday, and if not that happen...

use Refine Brush.. loading or freeze or Werid Square or bluurry select.

I know what i have to do, and use way. i'm retoucher for 15years.

 

To be really honest. Does this function work? 

I haven't been able to use this function properly since 2015. Every time there's an error and it's slow... (It's not my device problem. Because i test many type of OS, Computer spec) Window/Mac, intel/amd, nvidia, radeon.. 

Yes. I work manually select all the time. brush or Channel, Calculation, luminosity things.....

BUT, Why should I do that? I want to use some functions that I have............ =(

 

My main device is win10 Ryzen5600x Ram128GB 2070super, and M1 imac. 

All the computers I use as my main focus also have such delays or bugs.

 

⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇The contents below are what I did.⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇

Reset prefs. Reinstall, No use Plugin thing. Reinstall OS, Try current GPU driver,
And old driver is same. Change HDD , SSD , Nvm2,
Deactive canvas thing, Multi thread thing, GPU comp thing.. I've tried all of thing what i can way.

 

I'll ask you one last time. I'm not angry. I'm really curious.

To be really honest. Does this function work? 

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Apr 23, 2022 Apr 23, 2022

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Calm down, and don't be surprised.
be honest, I've never used it properly either lol.

My GPU is 3080 and very highend spec computer. But same issue.
PS version is 23.3.1
But... I think there's been a lag and a crash like that since two years ago.

I really want to use that Refine edge brush LOL

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Apr 23, 2022 Apr 23, 2022

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Select and mask freeze. I turn off GPU, but it's not work for me.

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