Accidental 1x1 aspect ratio in camera Canon 5D Mark III to lightroom

Community Beginner ,
Sep 20, 2022 Sep 20, 2022

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Recently did a photoshoot on my canon 5D Mark III and used live view since I neede to be right above my subjects.  My camera had a 1x1 aspect ratio on (didnt know how to fix it at the time, I did now, but didnt see an issue) but showed the full image on image playback so I thought it was fine.  I opened the images in Lightroom CC and they show up as regular aspect ratio until I click on them and they go into 1x1 and dont go back.  Is there any way to fix this or are all of my live view taken shots stuck like this?

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Sep 20, 2022 Sep 20, 2022

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Can you upload one raw to something like Dropbox to inspect?

I suspect you are just seeing a crop based on metadata meaning you probably have full frame raw data but an example raw would help.

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Sep 20, 2022 Sep 20, 2022

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Don't have drop box or any of the other suggested things I have found since most of them are iPhone apps and I have Android and Microsoft products

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Sep 20, 2022 Sep 20, 2022

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Google Drive would work for this.  I believe One Drive would as well.


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Sep 20, 2022 Sep 20, 2022

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Any filesharing service will work so we can see your sample file. Dropbox is one of the most popular which is why it's often mentioned here. In your case, you should have access to OneDrive so try that.

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Sep 21, 2022 Sep 21, 2022

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I got them uploaded to my OneDrive as raw files and can see them as their original aspect ratio, but in the file info it is still stated as 1:1 and when exported back into my computer they still show up as 1:1. I can't screenshot it since OneDrive won't show me the full resolution but the when downloaded the quality is still the same. How do I get it back to the original ratio from OneDrive?

 

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Sep 21, 2022 Sep 21, 2022

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Please share one of the files on OneDrice and paste a link here so we can download it and inspect it.

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Sep 22, 2022 Sep 22, 2022

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https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak2hCPClOaU5zx6tTrZqKWBG1j_X?e=UHKoJb Hopefully this works, my replys keep dissapearing.

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Sep 22, 2022 Sep 22, 2022

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Hi, could you maybe share a file from your Creative Cloud online space?

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Sep 22, 2022 Sep 22, 2022

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The raw itself IS NOT cropped, it certainly is not 1X1. 

If I open the full raw data (no rendering) in RawDigger, I see this:

raw.jpg

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That's what I see as well but only on OneDrive, any way I redownload it, it goes right back to 1:1 as well as in Lightroom

 

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Sep 22, 2022 Sep 22, 2022

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I'm sure you've tried it, but what happens if you change the aspect ratio to 3:2?  Are you able to recover the missing sides of the file?  Or does it crop within the 1:1 square you can see?


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Sep 22, 2022 Sep 22, 2022

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Justs crops within the 1:1

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Sep 22, 2022 Sep 22, 2022

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As suspected, there is some camera-generated metadata that tells LR/ACR to honor the crop even though the complete uncropped raw data exists. 
How one disables this metadata is the real question. I can't undo it in ACR and converting it to DNG doesn't alter that, but again, it really isn't cropped. 

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Sep 23, 2022 Sep 23, 2022

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It is easy to see what is going on when inspecting the file with ExifTool. Here are the various pixel width/height tags:

[IFD0]          ImageWidth                      : 5760
[IFD0]          ImageHeight                     : 3840
[ExifIFD]       ExifImageWidth                  : 5760
[ExifIFD]       ExifImageHeight                 : 3840
[Canon]         CanonImageWidth                 : 5760
[Canon]         CanonImageHeight                : 3840
[Canon]         AFImageWidth                    : 5760
[Canon]         AFImageHeight                   : 3840
[Canon]         CroppedImageWidth               : 3840
[Canon]         CroppedImageHeight              : 3840
[Canon]         OriginalImageWidth              : 5760
[Canon]         OriginalImageHeight             : 3840

 

The offending metadata is obviously:

 

[Canon]         CroppedImageWidth               : 3840
[Canon]         CroppedImageHeight              : 3840

 

I'd recommend that you look into Canon software to see if it can bypass the cropped metadata.

 

Another option would be 3rd party software, for example on a Mac, Raw Photo Processor ignores the crop.

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Rawdigger shows the same metadata.

It doesn't allow for editing and that's the rub. 

Agree the next stop is Canons software.

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Thank you so much, this fixed it and was super easy to follow.

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