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I'm a professional retoucher, I've been on macs for most of my career. I moved to windows in 2020 and ever since I've experienced insane issues with Photoshop and lightroom on my PC's. I was on an Alienware PC with a 2000 series Ryzen processor. Now I'm on a Heavy-duty dell workstation with 128GB of ram. and I'm experiencing the same issues. So, this must be an adobe issue. 

 

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Instability! Ill have multiple images open in PS ill zoom in to say 200%,  paint something,  Press space bar to move accross the image and get a spinning wheel or a total freeze of PS up to 5 minutes.  

 

Sometimes (like today) ill make a simple move and ill get a spinning wheel then a crash!   Todays was interesting, because i had 10 images open, and when i rebooted, instead of PS recovering all of them. It only recovered 1 !!  The freezing happens alot. 

 

Lightroom. Same issue with freezing, ill be trying to move the slider to a file i need and the screen will turn white the the X in the upper right corner will turn red, a widow will appear asking if i want to close the program or wait.  This happens almost every day!  

 

None of this happened when i was on my old iMac. Its entirely windows and it doenst matter which PC im on it happens in the exact same manner!  

has anyone else noticed this and is there a solution? 

 

please advise. 

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Community Expert , Dec 19, 2023 Dec 19, 2023

@robertm98079738 

 

You need to completely disable the Intel UHD 770. Dual graphics will conflict and cause crashes.

 

I assume the same goes for the Alienware.

 

Dual graphics sounds like a good idea, but it only works for simple applications that send data one way downstream. Photoshop and other advanced graphics software uses the GPU actively for data processing. You can't send data to one GPU and get it back from the other, so there can only be one GPU in that equation.

 

Sometimes it works,

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@robertm98079738 

Perhaps try a thorough reset of Photoshop preferences?

(read this entire post before acting please)

Resetting restores Photoshop's internal preferences, which are saved when Photoshop closes.

If they become corrupt then various issues can occur.

 

Here’s some info on how to do that:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html

Manually removing preferences files is the most complete method for restoring Photoshop to its default state: 

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html#Manually

 

Manually removing preferences files is the most complete method for restoring Photoshop to its default state. This method ensures all preferences and any user presets which may be causing a problem are not loaded.

  1. Quit Photoshop.

  2. Navigate to Photoshop's Preferences folder.
    macOS: Users/[user name]/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop [version] Settings
    Windows: Users/[user name]/AppData/Roaming/Adobe/Adobe Photoshop [version]/Adobe Photoshop [version] Settings

     
    Note: The user Library folder is hidden by default on macOS. To access files in the hidden user Library folder, see How to access hidden user library files.
  3. Drag the entire Adobe Photoshop [Version] Settings folder to the desktop or somewhere safe for a back-up of your settings

  4. Open Photoshop.

     New preferences files will be created in their original location.

 

 

Note re macOS: The user Library folder is hidden by default.

To access files in the hidden user Library folder, see here for how to access hidden user library files.

https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/access-hidden-user-library-files.html

 

Unexpected behaviour may indicate damaged preferences. Restoring preferences to their default settings is a good idea when trying to troubleshoot unexpected behaviours in Photoshop. check out the video

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html#reset_preferences

 

Learn how to access and modify Photoshop preferences and customise per your frequent workflows

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html

 

And here’s an earlier forum discussion as an aid to understanding

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/quick-tips-how-to-reset-photoshop-pre...

 

You may want to backup your settings and custom presets, brushes & actions before restoring Photoshop's preferences.

Here is general info about that:  https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/preferences.html#BackupPhotoshoppreferences

 

 

Before you reset your preferences

in case of future issues, I suggest you make a copy as Adobe may need one to check problematic references. 

Quit Photoshop.
Go to Photoshop's Preferences folder

Preferences file locations: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/preference-file-names-locations-photoshop.html\


  [on MacOS see: Users/[user name]/Library/Preferences/Adobe Photoshop [version] Settings

  Note for those on macOS: - be aware that the user Library folder is hidden by default on macOS.

  https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/access-hidden-user-library-files.html

  In the Finder, open the “Go” menu whilst holding down the Option (Alt) key.

  Library will now appear in the list - below the current user's “home” directory. ]

 

Now you can drag the entire Adobe Photoshop [Version] Settings folder to the desktop or somewhere safe as a back-up of your settings.

 

 

Note for those on macOS:

Preference preservation is affected by macOS permissions,

you’ll need to allow Photoshop ‘Full Disk Access’ in your Mac OS Preferences/Security and Privacy

 

If that doesn't fix the issue:

Go to Preferences > Performance... and uncheck Multithreaded Compositing - and restart Photoshop.

Still hanging? 

Go to Preferences > Performance... click Advanced Settings... and uncheck "GPU Compositing" - then restart Photoshop. 

Do you still have problems?

 

Here's a link from Myra Ferguson specificially for troubleshooting Photoshop if it crashes on launch (which includes resetting preferences) Troubleshoot crash or freeze in Photoshop

 

 

 

 

It may even be time to reinstall Photoshop.

 

It’s recommended that you use the Adobe CC cleaner tool to remove all traces first.

(See above about preserving preferences though! It’s worth preserving them unless they are corrupted.)

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/cc-cleaner-tool-installation-problems.html

Uninstall Photoshop BUT make sure to choose the option “Yes, remove app preference”.

 

Once that process finishes, start the installation process and look into the “Advanced Options”. Uncheck “Import previous settings and preferences” and choose to “Remove old versions”.

 

I hope this helps

neil barstow, colourmanagement net  - adobe forum volunteer - co-author: 'getting colour right'

google me "neil barstow colourmanagement" for lots of free articles on colour management

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i just recently installed the latest PS on this new PC. Ive only started using it the past 2 days and its exibiting the exact same behavior as the previous PC. I dont think reseting preferences or reinstalling wioll do the trick. I really think there is a problem with Adobe products and windows. 

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I'm a working pro photographer who has also had a long IT career and worked at both Apple and Microsoft, FWIW. Although I strongly prefer the Mac, it certainly is possible to build and maintain a stable Windows PC. HOWEVER... its also easier to screw things up. The variation in hardware and drivers is really difficult for a developer to keep on top of (from Microsoft on down.)

If you are going to use a PC for graphics production, lean heavily on the manufacturer support. Dell should be able to work with you to setup a stable Alienware box (Dell owns Alienware) with the right drivers.

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Ryzen systems seem to have had a lot of inexplicable issues and is over-represented in problem reports. Don't ask me why, this is just informal statistics from being in the forum for a long time. Some of it has been traced down to the BIOS.

 

Dell is a different issue. Those machines are notoriously so filled with all kinds of "helpful" modifications and additional software that you can't find the operating system anymore. Clean it out, get rid of as much as you can. Uninstall, disable from startup, do whatever it takes. Take no prisoners.

 

One serious problem with Dell is that you often can't use original vendor GPU drivers. You have to use Dell's custom drivers.

 

On a clean Windows system, no extras, Photoshop is extremely reliable and stable.  I haven't seen a crash or slowdown in as long as I can remember. It just works, all the time.

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I tend to agree with Dag on this. We do seem to see a disproportionate  number of AMD hardware systems figuring in stability related issues on this forum.  I like to remind people that there are 30 million people using Photoshop legally, and goodness knows how many pirated versions, and it is inconcievable that an application with so many customers is inherently unstable.

 

 

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Can you go to Help > System info and click Copy. Then paste the info here.

I also use Windows and have no problems with freezing/crashing in Photoshop or Lightroom (Classic). I'd be interested to see what system differences there are that may lead to your experience.

 

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Hi Robert,

It was Photoshop's Help menu - then System Info, then Copy. It will show how it is set up on your system.

 

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ippvmk0.dll ippVM. Intel(R) Integrated Performance Primitives. Vector Math. 2021.6 (r0xbffe3c5b)
ippvml9.dll ippVM. Intel(R) Integrated Performance Primitives. Vector Math. 2021.6 (r0xbffe3c5b)
ippvmy8.dll ippVM. Intel(R) Integrated Performance Primitives. Vector Math. 2021.6 (r0xbffe3c5b)
JP2KLib.dll JP2KLib 2023/06/25-23:50:00 79.15070c2 79.15070c2
libeay32.dll The OpenSSL Toolkit 1.0.2zf
libifcoremd.dll Intel(r) Visual Fortran Compiler 10.0 (Update A)
libiomp5md.dll Intel(R) OpenMP* Runtime Library 5.0
libmmd.dll Intel(R) C/C++/Fortran Compiler Mainline
libzip.dll photoshopdva 22.0.0
LogSession.dll LogSession 8.2.0.16
mediacoreif.dll photoshopdva 22.0.0
Microsoft.AI.MachineLearning.dll Microsoft® Windows® Operating System 1.14.20230410.1.429e1e3
mkl_avx2.2.dll Intel(R) oneAPI Math Kernel Library 2022.1
mkl_avx512.2.dll Intel(R) oneAPI Math Kernel Library 2022.1
mkl_core.2.dll Intel(R) oneAPI Math Kernel Library 2022.1
mkl_def.2.dll Intel(R) oneAPI Math Kernel Library 2022.1
mkl_mc3.2.dll Intel(R) oneAPI Math Kernel Library 2022.1
mkl_sequential.2.dll Intel(R) oneAPI Math Kernel Library 2022.1
mkl_vml_avx2.2.dll Intel(R) oneAPI Math Kernel Library 2022.1
mkl_vml_avx512.2.dll Intel(R) oneAPI Math Kernel Library 2022.1
mkl_vml_def.2.dll Intel(R) oneAPI Math Kernel Library 2022.1
mkl_vml_mc3.2.dll Intel(R) oneAPI Math Kernel Library 2022.1
MPS.dll MPS 2023/06/27-19:07:31 79.51aea8a 79.51aea8a
onnxruntime.dll Microsoft® Windows® Operating System 1.14.20230410.1.429e1e3
opencv_world452.dll OpenCV library 4.5.2
pdfport.dll PDFPort 2020/11/19-11:34:27 79.625377 79.625377
Plugin.dll Adobe Photoshop 2024 25.1
PlugPlugExternalObject.dll Adobe(R) CEP PlugPlugExternalObject Standard Dll (64 bit) 11.5.2
PlugPlugOwl.dll Adobe(R) CSXS PlugPlugOwl Standard Dll (64 bit) 11.5.2.130
PSCloud.dll 1.0.0.1
PSRes.dll Adobe Photoshop 2024 25.1
PSViews.dll Adobe Photoshop 2024 25.1
ScCore.dll ScCore 2022/08/18-12:50:45 82.4 82.4
ssleay32.dll The OpenSSL Toolkit 1.0.2zf
SVGRE.dll SVGRE 79.e4a3cd5 79.e4a3cd5
svml_dispmd.dll Intel(R) C/C++/Fortran Compiler Mainline
VulcanControl.dll Vulcan Application Control Library 7.2.0.34
VulcanMessage5.dll Vulcan Message Library 7.2.0.34
WinRTSupport.dll Adobe Photoshop Windows RT Support 1.0.1.0
WRServices.dll WRServices Build 18.0.0.788c4ff 18.0.0.788c4ff
Unified Extensibility Platform uxp-7.3.0-6
UPIC 2.6.0


Required plugins:

Accented Edges 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Adaptive Wide Angle 25.1 - from the file “Adaptive Wide Angle.8bf”
Angled Strokes 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Average 25.1 - from the file “Average.8bf”
Bas Relief 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
BMP 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Camera Raw 16.0.1 - from the file “Camera Raw.8bi”
Camera Raw Filter 16.0.1 - from the file “Camera Raw.8bi”
Chalk && Charcoal 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Charcoal 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Chrome 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Cineon 25.1 - from the file “Cineon.8bi”
Clouds 25.1 - from the file “Clouds.8bf”
Color Halftone 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Colored Pencil 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Conté Crayon 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Craquelure 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Crop and Straighten Photos 25.1 - from the file “CropPhotosAuto.8li”
Crop and Straighten Photos Filter 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Crosshatch 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Crystallize 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Cutout 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Dark Strokes 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
De-Interlace 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Dicom 25.1 - from the file “Dicom.8bi”
Difference Clouds 25.1 - from the file “Clouds.8bf”
Diffuse Glow 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Displace 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Dry Brush 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Entropy 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Export Color Lookup Tables 25.1 - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
Extrude 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
FastCore Routines 25.1 - from the file “FastCore.8bx”
Fibers 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Film Grain 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Filter Gallery 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Fresco 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Glass 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Glowing Edges 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Grain 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Graphic Pen 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Halftone Pattern 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Halide Bottlenecks 25.1 - from the file “HalideBottlenecks.8bx”
HDRMergeUI 25.1 - from the file “HDRMergeUI.8bf”
HSB/HSL 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
IFF Format 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Ink Outlines 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
JPEG 2000 25.1 - from the file “JPEG2000.8bi”
Kurtosis 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Lens Blur 25.1 - from the file “Lens Blur.8bf”
Lens Correction 25.1 - from the file “Lens Correction.8bf”
Lens Flare 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Liquify 25.1 - from the file “Liquify.8bf”
Matlab Operation 25.1 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Maximum 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Mean 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Measurement Core 25.1 - from the file “MeasurementCore.8me”
Median 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Mezzotint 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Minimum 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
MMXCore Routines 25.1 - from the file “MMXCore.8bx”
Mosaic Tiles 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Multiprocessor Support 25.1 - from the file “MultiProcessor Support.8bx”
Neon Glow 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Note Paper 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
NTSC Colors 25.1 - from the file “NTSC Colors.8bf”
Ocean Ripple 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
OpenEXR 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Paint Daubs 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Palette Knife 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Parametric Filter NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialFilter.8bf”
Patchwork 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Paths to Illustrator 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
PCX 25.1 - from the file “PCX.8bi”
Photocopy 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Picture Package Filter 25.1 - from the file “ChannelPort.8bf”
Pinch 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Pixar 25.1 - from the file “Pixar.8bi”
Plaster 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Plastic Wrap 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Pointillize 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Polar Coordinates 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Portable Bit Map 25.1 - from the file “PBM.8bi”
Poster Edges 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Radial Blur 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Radiance 25.1 - from the file “Radiance.8bi”
Range 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Render Color Lookup Grid 25.1 - from the file “Export3DLUT.8be”
Reticulation 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Ripple 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Rough Pastels 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Save for Web 25.1 - from the file “Save for Web.8be”
ScriptingSupport 25.1 - from the file “ScriptingSupport.8li”
Shear 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Skewness 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Smart Blur 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Smudge Stick 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Solarize 25.1 - from the file “Solarize.8bf”
SP Substance Suite NO VERSION - from the file “MaterialSuite.8li”
Spatter 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Spherize 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Sponge 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Sprayed Strokes 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stained Glass 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Stamp 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Standard Deviation 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Sumi-e 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Summation 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Targa 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Texturizer 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Tiles 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Torn Edges 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Twirl 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Underpainting 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Vanishing Point 25.1 - from the file “VanishingPoint.8bf”
Variance 25.1 - from the file “statistics.8ba”
Water Paper 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Watercolor 25.1 - from the file “Filter Gallery.8bf”
Wave 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
WIA Support 25.1 - from the file “WIASupport.8li”
Wind 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”
Wireless Bitmap 25.1 - from the file “WBMP.8bi”
ZigZag 25.1 - from the file “Standard MultiPlugin.8bf”

Optional and third party plugins: NONE


Duplicate and Disabled plugins: NONE


Plugins that failed to load: NONE

Unified Extensibility Platform - Extensions:

Home Screen (Loaded) 7.2.0.44 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/UXP/Extensions\com.adobe.ccx.start-7.2.0\"
CmdN: 1.19.10
UAB: 2.18.0-2
Loaded at: 117 ms - launch time impact: 51 ms
ccx-timeline (Prepared) 3.1.12.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
CCX Commenting UXP Webview (Loaded) 27.3.1.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 4074 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
CCX Sharesheet UXP (Prepared) 24.10.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Content Credentials (Loaded) 0.40.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 3803 ms - launch time impact: 14 ms
CC Libraries Panel (Prepared) 3.25.28.0 - from the file "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe/CEP/Extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_25_28\"
CAPTURE: 2.0.41 STOCK: 4.1.0
Parametric Filter (Loaded) 0.1.8.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 4075 ms - launch time impact: 1 ms
Photoshop Adjustments Panel (Loaded) 1.29.26.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 4076 ms - launch time impact: 1 ms
Photoshop UXP Export-As (Prepared) 5.8.32.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Photoshop Facepile (Loaded) 1.3.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 4076 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Photoshop In App Messaging (Loaded) 4.3.7.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 4077 ms - launch time impact: 1 ms
Information Alert (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Photoshop Selection Feedback (Prepared) 0.5.0.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
Plugins Panel (Prepared) 1.4.3.0 - from the file "Required Folder"
IC popup message (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
Loaded at: 2491 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Multilayer Protection (Loaded) 1.0.0.0
Loaded at: 2492 ms - launch time impact: 0 ms
Discover Panel (Loaded) 2307.79.1.8 - from the file "Required Folder"
Loaded at: 4092 ms - launch time impact: 14 ms
Neural Filters (Registered) 1.15.0.100 - from the file "Required Folder"
Scan time: 0 ms - entries: 23

Extensions:

Libraries 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_25_28\index.html”
com.adobe.stock.panel.licensing-embedded 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_25_28\extensions\stock-panel-licensing\index.html”
com.adobe.capture.extension 2.0.41 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_25_28\extensions\capture\capture.html”
Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2024\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
Export As 4.8.15 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop 2024\Required\CEP\extensions\com.adobe.photoshop.crema\index.html”
com.adobe.cclibraries.manager 1.0.0 - from the file “C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\CEP\extensions\CC_LIBRARIES_PANEL_EXTENSION_3_25_28\manager.html”

Installed TWAIN devices: NONE

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LEGEND ,
Dec 19, 2023 Dec 19, 2023

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Are you at Truck Hero just south of A2? It looks like you are on a domain and possibly using a virtualized system. I doubt that Photoshop will run well with that environment. Have your IT people take a look at this, because there are all sorts of background processes. If Adobe can't write to the hard drive its going to crash.

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Dec 19, 2023 Dec 19, 2023

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I am the farthest from an IT guy but i can tell you that I have the same issues at home on my Alienware R15 that i do here. I seriously think its Windows and Microsoft. 

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Dec 19, 2023 Dec 19, 2023

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@robertm98079738 

 

You need to completely disable the Intel UHD 770. Dual graphics will conflict and cause crashes.

 

I assume the same goes for the Alienware.

 

Dual graphics sounds like a good idea, but it only works for simple applications that send data one way downstream. Photoshop and other advanced graphics software uses the GPU actively for data processing. You can't send data to one GPU and get it back from the other, so there can only be one GPU in that equation.

 

Sometimes it works, but very often it doesn't.

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Dec 19, 2023 Dec 19, 2023

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Intersting! Is there one switch to disable this? I use Photoshop, Lightroom and Maya 3D and im guessing this could affect all?

 

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Dec 19, 2023 Dec 19, 2023

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And yes im at Truck Hero

 

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LEGEND ,
Dec 20, 2023 Dec 20, 2023

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I drive down State St at least once or twice a week.

And yes, disable the integrated graphics card first thing. See if that is the answer.

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Dec 21, 2023 Dec 21, 2023

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Well, you all will be excited to know that disabling the Intel UHD 770. Dual graphics card did the trick!  Such a stupid thing, I swear, Microsoft in an effort to be cool really make a mess most times. Anyway, thank you all for your assistance, Satand by for a new post soon in regard to file choices and the make a copy feature in Photoshop that KIlLS ME DAILY!!!  

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Dec 21, 2023 Dec 21, 2023

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Microsoft has nothing to do with this, it's Dell and all the other laptop manufacturers who think dual graphics is a splendid idea. They just haven't caught on to the complex ways GPUs are used in advanced graphics software today.

 

Imagine having two CPUs working independently from one another, switching at random and unpredictable moments, mid-calculation.

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Dual graphics is a great idea BUT the software should be smarter. Either ask the use or automate it when Photoshop launches (or on a threshold of graphics activity.)

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