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Cutting out a transparent edge to layer below

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Mar 20, 2018 Mar 20, 2018

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Hi Everybody -

I want to overlap 2 layer of text (type) above the  base layer below.  At first I thought the example was just an enlarged black edge, but later realised it is transparent.

Hope this makes sense.  Here is an example - the white text layer above (not visible in example) and the white text layer underneath the layer below cuts through the base layer with a transparent edge that I have to assume is done with the text and an overrsized outline of that text.

Thanks for any and all help!

Garry

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Here are my $0.02 Cutting out a transparent edge to layer below - YouTube

Note: you can add a layer mask to the group of layers, it works exactly the same. Automation is possible using actions but things will be complicated if you are planning to update text.

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Mar 20, 2018 Mar 20, 2018

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You poster a png if you want to write about layers and Photoshop items you should post a screen capture of you document open in Photoshop where where the layers palette and other importation palettes are visible so we can get some idea of what you writing about. Are your text layers text layers or pixels layers containing text etc.

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Mar 20, 2018 Mar 20, 2018

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Hello JJMack -

Hope these screenshots make sense -

Where the text layers (upper pink layer and lower red layer) cross over the white bottom layer I want the "pink" and "red" text to cut out the white layer with an over sized transparent shape of the text. 

Example of it being used is the white lettering cutting out a transparent shape of the text "over" the blue FISH text (3rd screen shot).

Hope this makes sense example 2 text layers over bottom layer.jpg

Screen Shot 2018-03-20 at 5.14.47 PM.png

Great font effect on Blue text (FISH) with transparent holdout from surrounding and overlaying text.png

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png Screen shot shows how I am trying to cut out the layer below (blue "fish") with the White text (type) ((font)) and that oversized text cutout to be transparentUntitled-1.png

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Hello JJMack-

photoshop CC 2018

Macbook Pro

macOS High Sierra

Version 10.13.3

2.8 Ghz Intel Core i7

Memory 16GB 1600 MHz DDR3

Below is hopefully a little clearer of what I hope to achieve.  And that is an outline that is slightly larger than the size of my font. And that outline is not black or a color, but a thin (outside and inside) edge knockout for the base layer (aka background layer).

Untitled-1.png

example 2 text layers over bottom layer.jpg

Screen Shot 2018-03-20 at 5.14.47 PM.png

Great font effect on Blue text (FISH) with transparent holdout from surrounding and overlaying text.png

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Mar 21, 2018 Mar 21, 2018

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None look like a screen capture each look like a part of a different screen capture of a document or documents at different point in time. There may be one document that has three  text layers two seem to be renamed and the one renamed Layer Over 1 is the current Photoshop target normal mode 100% opacity and fill these are visible over a visible dark background layer that  may contain something or just a dark come.   This layer structure may be related to some or part image parts posted in a different state. There are no layer mask or layer styles whet the layers palettes was captured.  The bottom text layer  "Bottom Layer" does not look like any text font I have seen in any of the parts in fact in the image none of he text look like normal Photoshop vector font.  If all the image parts are from the same document major editing has been done to the layers. What has been done. What state in the document now in.

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Mar 21, 2018 Mar 21, 2018

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Sorry, JJMack -

Attached is a png file of my layers palette with the original png file on a transparent background.  I put a red background underneath the "artwork layer" to show you how different colored backgrounds show that it is not just a black outline surrounding the overlapping texts

Hope it makes sense - sorry to drive you crazy

I own the original artwork as a png file.  I bought it and like how the used the overlapping text obviously on separate layers to scallop out a cutout of the text layer underneath.  I love what they have done and I'm just trying to figure out how they did it so I can do the same with things I might create.  I believe it is somehow an outline of the above layers text as the cutout is seemingly precise.  I could scallop out to achieve the same thing with the eraser tol but I was hoping to be more exact and precise.

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layers panel with original artwork on a png file with a red background layer underneath that I added to show transparency

Blue Background.png

Dark Grey Background.png

Green Background.png

Red Background.png

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Mar 21, 2018 Mar 21, 2018

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If the original file was a png file there was a single pixel  layer with transparency there were no text layers. There may be color borders around the original text characters. You dif not post that png.  The layer palette you show this time looks like you have merged all your layers above your red background layer into a single smart object layer.  The only way to work on all you layers now is to open the smart object in Photoshop and edit the object to remove what you do not want. Add a bottom black layer and  make only one of the upper layer visible to see the layer content over black.  So you can see the pixels on the layer that you do not want in the layer so you can delete them and also add any missing pixels that you want but are not there. The loutline may be cause by missing pixels.  Do the same to the other layers one layer at a time. Then make all layer visible delete the black layer and close the work document and reply yes to save  it so Photoshop will update your smart object layer's object.

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Mar 21, 2018 Mar 21, 2018

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Hi JJMack -

I'm sorry for leading you down a long path of uncertainty.  Yes, the artwork I bought is a png file and placed on a transparent background so it can be sent to a printing service as a png file to print that very design onto a t-shirt.

The only reason I put it into photoshop was to show you that no matter what color the background (or t-shirt color) is that color will show through and is not just a black stroke outline surrounding the text.

The only thing I sometimes do to one of the png files that I purchase is - take it into photoshop and add a mask to the layer and then apply a texture pattern to make the image look distressed and worn -- or.... let even more of the t-shirt color come through the open or transparent portions of the design. Then save it back to .png on a transparent background for the t-shirt printing service to print the design onto a t-shirt.

I also make my own text-based t-shirt designs in photoshop, and I am a professional photographer so I do a lot of my own retouching etc and am very familiar with layers and masks and textures.  I'm just not the graphic designer I would wish to be. 

But the previous png file with overlapping text was originally done in photoshop with layers for each line of text.  Graphic Designers of work like this won't give out their secrets because that's how they make money and sell you a design that you like - but only deliver you a png file.

I like what they did and want to make my own graphic designs sometimes - albeit not as good as a good designer but I at least aspire to.

So I wasn't trying to do anything in photoshop with that previous png file example.  I was only showing it as the end result of what I still want to attempt to do.  I'm not a graphic designer - so I don't know some of the tricks they do, but I want to learn.  And this forum has been especially helpful along with all the various versions of Photoshop that I have had over the years.  And I just wanted to glean some knowledge of how to do this "text stroke edge cutout"  Maybe it's some sort of stroke edge that punches through a layer beneath it.  But how d I do that/ Is there a magic stoke on a font that makes a transparent knockout layer beneath it allowing the background (or t-shirt color) to come through?

Below is an example of how I construct a text-based T-shirt file in Photoshop Cc 2018 and then save it as.psd and then save it again as a .png file to send to the t-shirt printing service

I hope all of the above is understandable - I'm a very simple guy trying to learn something to make my efforts even better

Text Only T-shirt design saved as .psd and than saved as .png later to send to a t-shirt printing service.png

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Below is the png I've been sending - but without any color background layer (and much harder to see along with a screenshot of the psd file.  Again - I'm not trying to do anything to this .png file.

What I am trying to do is emulate the way the type (font) cuts out the layer it overlaps.

So my question is how do I make a text layer that by my decision of design cutout portions of a type layer that it may overlap

png file open in Photoshop.png

Png file in Photoshop.png

The only reason the layer shows as a smart object is because the png file is pasted into a transparent psd file that has the correct size and width dimensions required by the printing service.  I would then normally apply a distressed effect in photoshop and then save back out to .png and send to the printer

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Open the original Png files in Photoshop  Use the Magic Wand to select all White. With that selection  do a Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V Copy Paste.  Deselect target the bottom layer  and use the Magic Wand to select all the blue-greens  then Copy paste.   Turning off the visibility of the bottom layer should not change the image appearance. It look like Fish is missing parts of  some of the fish characters. Turn off the visibility you the white top layer and add an empty layer below it.  With the empty layer targeted use the clone stamp tool to fill in the missing parts of the fish characters.

fish.gif

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Mar 21, 2018 Mar 21, 2018

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Hi JJMack-

I'm still not connecting with you I'm afraid.  I'm not trying to edit any .png file.

I'm building a new design in .psd completely unrelated to the png example design I sent.

I believe I have found the answer with an outer stroke on one of my new creation .PSD text layers > then converting this layer to a smart object > then adjusting the blend mode to deep Knockout.

And I can record this action and repeat the desired effect on any and all of my new text layers .PSD files and then convert the finished design from .psd to a .png file to send to the printing service for another t-shirt...

Thanks for your help - I never wanted to edit my .png  the png files were just examples of what I wanted to achieve in a separate aa yet undesigned final version of a new .PSD file with text layers

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Mar 22, 2018 Mar 22, 2018

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If you are building a new design.  With Photoshop layers tools and features all that is stopping you is your creative process. IMO using you brain and its knowledge you should be able to create whatever design you can dream up.

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Hi JJMack -

That's beautiful!

Here is the sloution to my question - Bojan Zivkovic - Thank you so much!!  I will go try it now

created by Bojan Živković in Photoshop - View the full discussion


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Hi Garry!

Looks like there’s many different ways to get this result and I’d like to share one with you. You can achieve this look with 3 different layers: Dark Grey as background layer, next bright halftone and white script on top. You can apply a stroke to the white script text that is the same color as the background. It will appear as though we are cutting into the bright halftone but we are only covering it.

Hope you find this helpful

-Sebastian

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Here are my $0.02 Cutting out a transparent edge to layer below - YouTube

Note: you can add a layer mask to the group of layers, it works exactly the same. Automation is possible using actions but things will be complicated if you are planning to update text.

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