Edited in ACR, Viewed in Bridge, Beautiful - Convert to JPEG, View out of Adobe, Ugly???

[CarlRMorgan]

Hello you Good Folk Advisors

I have a new Nikon camera and lens, a new computer and Eizo monitor, and I have taken up a new Adobe Photography CC subscription.

Last week I took some portraits using lighting at a photography show.
I edited them in Adobe Camera Raw and then viewed them through Adobe Bridge.
I was extremely happy with the results and they looked very 'professional'.
(I only take a photograph from ACR to Photoshop if there is a need).

I used Photoshop through Bridge to convert the 40MB Nikon NEF Raw file to a 600 x 400 pixel JPEG for my website.
When viewed in Bridge, this conversion is absolutely fine.

When I view this converted JPEG file through my Windows browser or on my website, it is comparatively poor compared to how it looks in Adobe.
- Dull, less punchy.
- Slightly darker.
- Black and white highlights and shadows are less black and white and photograph looks more dull.
- Colours are not the same and again a bit dull.
- Skin tone colours are redder.
- Less contrast between the background and the subjects hair so the hair blends into the background.

I am hoping that one of you good people may be able to find a solution for me as i am pleased with my images but not when I have to display them on-line!

Is there anything I can do with my Adobe software, my computer or monitor, or my process, so that when i am editing I can actually see what the image will look like when I convert it to a JPEG for viewing on a website.

Thanking you in advance for your anticipated help with this issue.

Kind Regards

Rob

[CarlRMorgan]

I shall thank you again so much for doing this for me.

So,
I shall use your monitor settings you have recommended.
I shall use the ACR colour space Adobe RGB (1998) when editing photographs for print.

I shall use the ACR colour space sRGB IEC61966-2.1 when editing photographs for the web.

May I kindly ask whether the method I described as to how I save images is fine by you?

From Bridge I select Tools -> Photoshop -> Image Processor

I then tick Save as JPEG, tick Convert Profile to sRGB, set the Quality

and set the Pixel Dimensions then click on ‘Run’.

May I kindly ask if you have a photography website you on-line?

[D Fosse]

As I wrote further up: For web - convert to sRGB, embed the profile, done. View in a color managed web browser.

Keep master files as Adobe RGB or ProPhoto and print from those. Set the print profile in the PS print dialog, keep the file in the original color space.

At this point I think we should conclude this, and you should read the entire thread from the beginning. It's all there. I haven't yet touched the subject of gamut clipping - which you want to avoid - and soft proofing to preview that on screen. But that's the next stage once you have the basics in place. There's no point in getting into that if the basics aren't established. One thing at a time.

[CarlRMorgan]

Thank you.

I have read the thread several times now.

I fully understand why you now want to conclude this, however please can you finish by answering the question I have posed several times then the whole issue is concluded for me.

1. From now on I shall edit all photographs in Adobe RGB (1998) Colour space (for print and web). FROM WHAT YOU SAID ABOVE.

2. Is my method of creating JPEGS for the web (listed above twice) alright?
     When I do it this way it does not give me an option of embedding the profile (like it does when you take it from ACR to Photoshop) however I assume it does because I have ticked the Convert the Profile to sRGB box which I am assuming is embedding an sRGB profile.

If you can clarify those to points then my understanding at this point is completed.
Sorry I have extended this but i just wanted to complete it in my head!

You have been brilliant!

[D Fosse]

No, converting to sRGB does not embed the profile. It just recalculates the numbers.

• Image Processor does give you an option to embed the profile. It's a checkbox labeled "Include ICC Profile" at the bottom of the dialog. Always keep this checked.
• In Save For Web and Export it's called "Embed Color Profile". Always make sure these are checked too, they're off by default for some reason.
• In Save As, "Color Profile" is checked by default and normally always on.

So again - convert to sRGB, embed the profile, done.

[CarlRMorgan]

Thank you for that.

At least I know that i am not compromising the images by saving them through the Bridge Image Processor if the "Include ICC Profile" is ticked.

JUST CHECKING:
From now on I should edit all photographs in ACR in Adobe RGB (1998) Colour space even if I want JPEGS for the web. (FROM WHAT YOU SAID ABOVE)

YES or NO?

Thanks again

[Paula Abdul]

Had the same problem.

So after playing around the settings, it seems like applying my colour corrected profile from DisplayCAL (with Spyder4 hardware), makes rendering in Adobe software weird, while in other software (Chrome, windows photo viewer, EVEN handphone with colour corrected settings Pixel, Note 8 (photo mode) handphone) looks normal.

If I off it, there's still a slight purple tint in Adobe softwares (After closing and opening the particular Adobe softwares again).

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