ICC profile for web

[peterblaas]

hey everyone. We are looking for help with the following. We process a lot of production images for our webshop in psd to jpg. We see that in Google shopping and Pinterest our color profile changes (become very ugly).

See as an example these Google shopping images. We found out that PSD defaults to:
Preserve Embedded Profiles

But if for RGB color management we set it to:
Convert to Working RGB
Our images are great in color in all browsers and. Google and Pinterest..

Now this doesn't seem like the right setting, but it works. How can PSD be set to Preserve by default?...

[c.pfaffenbichler]

What is the actual process? 

Using the setting »Convert to Working CMYK« is generally a terrible idea.

»Preserve Embedded Profiles« makes sense in most situations. 

Edit: … in my opinion, that is. 

What is the images’ original Color Space? 

If it is Adobe RGB or eciRGB v2 etc. you can work in those Spaces, save the layered psd in those spaces and convert to sRGB on exporting. 

[peterblaas]

We shoot with a Canon EOS R5 RAW
Which we open in psd (then I see in camera raw: Adobe RGB (1998) - 8 bit - 5464 x 8192 (44 BPM) 300 ppi

We edit these to jpgs, but you're actually saying that we should open the sRGB setting in raw already?

If the jpg is exported, convert to sRGB is enabled.
(sorry if I say stupid things, but looking for a solution for so long)

When we upload our production images to Pinterest we immediately see the color change after save, so it seems that there is no profile in our images, when I open our images there is an * behind RBG.

thanks for your time.

[D Fosse]

Keep all your color management policies set to preserve embedded profiles.

For web output, convert to sRGB, make sure the profile is embedded, done.

That has the highest likelihood of displaying roughly right, in the highest number of possible scenarios.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

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We edit these to jpgs, but you're actually saying that we should open the sRGB setting in raw already?

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No, especially if there is even the slightest chance the images might get used in print later on. 

It is fine to work on a psd in Adobe RGB, converting to sRGB for web use and embedding the profile should suffice. 

[NB, colourmanagement]

Firstly, you mention "Google shopping images. We found out that PSD defaults to - - - "

- do not place PSD files on the web, generally for images jpeg is the most used format. Maybe you're doing that already I don't fully follow your description.

Secondly - you mention "convert to working RGB" - that RGB could be any colourspace as it's set in Photoshop's "color settings" 

For internet use your best chance for reasonable reproduction is to convert images to sRGB AND embed the ICC profile when saving the web version. 

If the file will ever be printed, archive a copy in the original colourspace and make a copy for conversion to sRGB.

You mention the camera jpeg file, best to process the raw properly and resize before making the Jpeg, a Jpeg image file does not survive resizing well. 

I hope this helps
neil barstow, colourmanagement net :: adobe forum volunteer:: co-author: 'getting colour right'
google me "neil barstow colourmanagement" for lots of free articles on colour management

[Dan Rodney]

In the end you need an sRGB image for the web. You can edit in Adobe RGB if you want (to work in a bigger color space) as long as you convert to sRGB when saving as a JPEG, which Save for Web and Export As do automatically (but Save As does NOT).