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I've been a custumer of Photoshop since PS4 back in the nineties... I'm not interested in working in the cloud, nor online...
Is there any "normal" option to upgrade my CS6 version normally ?
I feel like being left over by Adobe...
No cool 😞
CS6 was/ is the last standalone version. From here on, new versions will only be available as subscription.
Mylenium
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CS6 was/ is the last standalone version. From here on, new versions will only be available as subscription.
Mylenium
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It's a pity... No other choice than to switch to something else then I'm afraid... I know it's not the same but I'll start investigate Gimp or whatever I'm going to find...
I really don't understand. What's the point in working Photoshop in the cloud when you're on a portable with no connection ?
Rather stupid...
And much moe expensive i the long term then buying a licence...
Thumbs down for Adobe...
At least Lightroom is still available for download !
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You don't have to be connected to the internet to use Photoshop CC.
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etiennetordoir wrote:
What's the point in working Photoshop in the cloud when you're on a portable with no connection ?
That is not how the Adobe Cloud works.
The software downloads and is installed as usual on your local hard drive. You run the software and work with it as normal. You edit locally and save your files locally. Your choice if you want to also upload your files to the Cloud storage space (it's not mandatory).
Updates and upgrades are downloaded from the Adobe Cloud and installed locally.
Only your license is managed in the Cloud. The software will phone home every month or so to check that your monthly payments are up to date. If you stop paying, the software stops working.
Other than that, it's business as usual.
More info in the Cloud FAQ
http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html
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It is sad when a company thinks they are in disposable and want to make subscriptions mandatory. I understand subscription based programs make the company more money (in theory) by keeping the henchman's hand on the release to the guillotine, but you might very well lose customers to other software that way.
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The cloud is a rip off.
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I've been thinking about this thread—and while I love Photoshop and think the CC subscription is worth it—several of you do not.
So I want to mention that one alternative to consider is Photoshop Elements. I don't use it, because I use Photoshop. But you can buy a license to it instead of subscribe to it. And you can open images in the .psd format. It can't do everything that Photoshop can do, so you will have see if it works for you.
Just a thought for those who are looking.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/supported-file-formats-photoshop-elements.html
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There are quite alternatives to Photoshop.
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I'm mostly interested in the erase feature photoshop has.
Does anyone know of an alternative program that has this feature?
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susanc49057053 wrote:
I'm mostly interested in the erase feature photoshop has.
Does anyone know of an alternative program that has this feature?
Photoshop Elements.
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PhotoImpact was the only real contender to PS. They quit making it a few years ago, but they still sell it. If you get the Nova Development version of PhotoImpact Pro, it'll run on Windows 7 and 8. It's not compatible with MAC though. It's $100.
There are a few things PS will do that PI won't and vise-versa. I would say they've always been neck and neck when it comes to features and performance. I've always preferred PI myself. I've been using it since the late 90's.
I've experimented with Serif PagePlus as an alternative to InDesign, but it's still not ready for prime-time in my opinion, and there's nothing else any better either. Believe me, I've looked. However, I think PagePlus will get there eventually. I'm content to use CS6 until PagePlus is ready.
Also, I switched from Premiere to Sony Vegas for my NLE work and never missed a thing. Unfortunately, Vegas just got sold to a lousy company called Magix which has produced nothing but inferior products full of bugs in the past, so I'm guessing that I'll be using some different NLE software before long.
Cloud free and lovin' it.
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You could also buy the Corel Photo Paint.
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You might consider Photoshop Elements 15 for a one-off payment of around $40.
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Try Gimp.
Corel also has a nice Photoshop replacement.
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So basically, Adobe owns your work. This sucks! And I hope they go out of business for forcing this down people's throats.
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777pommie wrote:
So basically, Adobe owns your work. This sucks! And I hope they go out of business for forcing this down people's throats.
This is not true, but why do you think it is?
Adobe does own the software; they always have. You have purchased a license to use the software under the agreement terms that you signed.
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777pommie wrote:
So basically, Adobe owns your work. This sucks! And I hope they go out of business for forcing this down people's throats.
Preposterous, of course Adobe doesn't own your copyright work!
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777pommie wrote:
So basically, Adobe owns your work.
No. If you drop Adobe CC, some programs will change into read-only mode. You can still look at your Artwork, but you cannot modify any more. Fair enough, if you need to modify, you can buy a license for a month.
And I hope they go out of business for forcing this down people's throats.
I hope not! For the moment they are doing good business...
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I will not be using Photoshop anymore either. I hate subscription based. So someone has a version of Photoshop they bought and they need to open a file. Now if they don't want to subscribe to photoshop they have to, to be able to open the file. I still have Photoshop 6 but after I have to upgrade this which won't be for awhile I will be finding another program to use. I am in the Graphic Design field but will make something else work. And it's not just me. My company will be doing the same thing. Sorry but I think this will be what some people will do. It probably won't hurt Adobe because they are so big but hopefully it will make it so other programs are invested in and updated. Adobe shouldn't be the only option out there anyway. Even though I've used photoshop for over 15 years and I love it. I don't love it anymore.
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Almost a year after this thread was started my comments are in essence the same as shared here.
I pretty much agree with everyone's dissatisfaction with the "Cloud" approach. Most of us have been using and paying for Photoshop for a long time, buying incremental upgrades as they became available. I get how we never really "own" the software, we just have purchased the right to use it. The fundamental difference for me and a lot of others is that before Adobe's "cloud" approach the customer got to deciede if we wanted to upgrade to the next version or not. If Adobe didn't innovate or improve on the feature set and performance we could vote with our buying decision, holding off on purchasing the next version (a practice I rarely did). Now we're all paying to continue to use the software regardless and what's worse if we don't feel like the software is worth the monthly/annual fee the software time-bombs. The new approach is ideal from Adobe's point of view but for the consumer or business they run the risk of all the stuff they have created being useless (at least the adobe specific files) unless they continue to pay; before you could still do whatever you wanted with the software but lost out on new features and functionality until you upgraded. Businesses that purchase a significant amount of licenses (along with hardware to run the software from another company) wouldn't be able to treat the combined investment as a capital expense under the new monthly subscription model.
I fear that the motivation on Adobe's behalf to continue to add value in terms of feature enhancements will be a bit attenuated now that they have folks on the hook a bit more than in the past. As far as the cloud storage goes I have at least four online data stores and I do not need a fifth. I also don't plan on using the apps "in the cloud" like from the library or some other ridiculous scenario. I'll still be downloading/installing the apps locally on my PC or Mac.
There have been a lot of companies that have adopted "cloud" models for software; I have yet to see where the decision to do so was driven by consumer demand.
Good comments all around in this thread.
--Robert
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Not everyone is dissatisfied. You don't hear much from folks who like the value.
-Noel
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Well I like the cloud approach it means I have a standard monthly amount to pay instead of a big lump sum, I get all the latest updates and I'm able to try other adobe software I probably wouldn't have done otherwise.
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So what happens one day when you cant afford to pay the monthly subscription...............you lose everything. I for one have enough monthly amounts to pay and as a low paid freelance writer regular payments are anathema to me. We are all getting stitched in tot the system to pay regular monthly amounts to all sorts of people....mobile company, cloud storage and so on.........welcome to The Machine.
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One big problem is that in the latest upgrade they killed off a feature I use all the time in my work. It's not always better. I suddenly discovered that instead of CS6 I had a new "improved" CC or something. And at least for a function I rely on doesn't work anymore. How about trying to reach somebody at Adobe to help - "maybe its somewhere else?" - no way. Another long-time Adobe user looking for something else.