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[ Locked ] document Size reduces after duplicate all layers to new document

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we are using Photoshop versions cs6 to CC 2023, if we use older files of any extension(tiff,psd,psb,jpg etc), photoshop slow,lags and stucks anywhere.Right click on old files takes 30 to 60 sec. drug and droping files in photoshop stucks for some 30-90 seconds. If i duplicate the same file using all layers(Not whole documents any not using Alt+i+D) just using selecting all layers then the files works perfect, all issues are sloved, right click menu is coming quickly, drug and droping works fine.

   i duplicate the file using selecting all layers, after right click on any layer, select duplicate layers in rightclick menu, then select as new document, then the new document works fine. and i saw an amazing thing after saving file, the file size also reduces of new document.

so i want to know that what is in our files, and what left after layers duplication... and if my files are demage how to repair files. because we have hundred of thousand file which we use.. Thank you in advance

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Correct answer Stephen Marsh

@alia88402768 

 

Your original files may have been bloated with excess photoshop:DocumentAncestors metadata. Duping the layers to a new file is one way to strip this metadata, which would account for size differences:

 

More info on how to check and remove this metadata at my blog:

 

https://prepression.blogspot.com/2017/06/metadata-bloat-photoshopdocumentancestors.html

 

If you have many files with this bloat, then using a Photoshop or Bridge metadata script, or ExifTool would be better than opening image data as it is faster to only edit the metadata. Duping the layers to a new file removes almost all metadata in various shapes and forms, not just photoshop:DocumentAncestors metadata.

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Stephen Marsh
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Stephen MarshCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
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February 28, 2023

@alia88402768 

 

Your original files may have been bloated with excess photoshop:DocumentAncestors metadata. Duping the layers to a new file is one way to strip this metadata, which would account for size differences:

 

More info on how to check and remove this metadata at my blog:

 

https://prepression.blogspot.com/2017/06/metadata-bloat-photoshopdocumentancestors.html

 

If you have many files with this bloat, then using a Photoshop or Bridge metadata script, or ExifTool would be better than opening image data as it is faster to only edit the metadata. Duping the layers to a new file removes almost all metadata in various shapes and forms, not just photoshop:DocumentAncestors metadata.

    Kevin Stohlmeyer
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    Kevin StohlmeyerCommunity Expert
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    February 28, 2023

    Hi @alia88402768 trying to understand your enviroment. Are you currently using CS6 and CC 2023 or converting from CS6 to 2023?

    When you open the older files, have you tried doing a Save As to a new file to allow CC2023 to rewrite the file or does the lag happen when opening?

    Not sure why you are duplicating layers to a document instead of save as to create new files.

     

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    alia88402768Author
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    February 28, 2023

    Hello kevin stohlmeyer

    yes we are currently using cs6 , cc2019, cc 2023. diffrent users.

    yes we tried save as to new file but not work on files. all photoshop versions give same problems. slow, lags, screen black or which, cant go on another document while saving,

                   just works when we duplicate all the layers to new document, all issue are gone.i am sure this is not a hardware or drivers issues. because we are using windows 22h2 with all updates and updated graphics drivers.

                 when we duplicate the layers of same older file  to new document and save that new document, the size of new document decreases comparison of old file. for example if i open the tiff file of 125MB, when i duplicate the layers of tiff file to new document and save the file in tiff format. then the size of new document is just 10 to 15mb... and we work in layers just and mostly save files in tiff and jpg format....

     

    Kevin Stohlmeyer
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    Kevin StohlmeyerCommunity Expert
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    February 28, 2023

    Hi @alia88402768 could you go to the Photoshop Help Menu/System info and copy paste the details from the computer that you are seeing the lag from here? It would help determine if there is a software or hardware config issue at hand.

    The tif example tells me that the older tif files were most likely not saved with compression and your new file format does. Try this - open an older tif file in 2023, go to Save As>Tif and confirm LZW or another compression mode is active when you are saving.

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