Lorem Ipsum text [alternatives to default pseudo-Latin?]

[Mike Witherell]

Hi Photoshop community,

Is there a way to make the Lorem Ipsum text display in English; not Latin?

Mike in Maryland

[Daniel E Lane]

Lorem Ipsum text is not in Latin. It is just fake text meant to represent something that you will put in later. It is completely random and has no meaning in any language.

[Martin_Bns]

Hi there, lorem ipsum just sounds latin but it's not. If you need a custom generator of random text, check this link: http://generator.lorem-ipsum.info/

Professional lorem ipsum generator for typographers

cheers,

Martin

[teachbit]

I always use this One:

https://www.blindtextgenerator.com/lorem-ipsum

An example of dummy Text:

Far far away, behind the word mountains, far from the countries Vokalia and Consonantia, there live the blind texts. Separated they live in Bookmarksgrove right at the coast of the Semantics, a large language ocean. A small river named Duden flows by their place and supplies it with the necessary regelialia. It is a paradisematic country, in which roasted parts of sentences fly into your mouth. Even the all-powerful Pointing has no control about the blind texts it is an almost unorthographic life One day however a small line of blind text by the name of Lorem Ipsum decided to leave for the far World of Grammar.

[Trevor.Dennis]

teachbit  wrote

Far far away, behind the word mountains, far from the countries Vokalia and Consonantia, there live the blind texts. Separated they live in Bookmarksgrove right at the coast of the Semantics, a large language ocean. A small river named Duden flows by their place and supplies it with the necessary regelialia. It is a paradisematic country, in which roasted parts of sentences fly into your mouth. Even the all-powerful Pointing has no control about the blind texts it is an almost unorthographic life One day however a small line of blind text by the name of Lorem Ipsum decided to leave for the far World of Grammar.

That is really sad.   We should start a Crowd Funding campaign to help the poor little critters. 

[teachbit]

Yes, the story has no happy end:

On her way she met a copy. The copy warned the Little Blind Text, that where it came from it would have been rewritten a thousand times and everything that was left from its origin would be the word "and" and the Little Blind Text should turn around and return to its own, safe country. But nothing the copy said could convince her and so it didn’t take long until a few insidious Copy Writers ambushed her, made her drunk with Longe and Parole and dragged her into their agency, where they abused her for their projects again and again. And if she hasn’t been rewritten, then they are still using her.

[jane-e]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Mike+Witherell  wrote

Hi Mike in Maryland,

• I know you already know that InDesign does this with Cmd+Click

• and that you can type whatever you want and save it as a .txt file
  

Mike, are looking for a way to insert alternative Lorem Ipsum as easily in PS as you can in InDesign without copy and paste?

[Note: for anyone reading my placeholder text, Mike really was introduced like that. It was a panel of four, and they never said his name.]

~Jane

[davidblatner]

jane-e​ You pointed out two of the three InDesign placeholder text tricks… there is one more: when Caps Lock is on, Type > Fill with Placeholder Text inserts a slightly different latin text. My understanding is that this is from a different oration by Cicero. Anyone recognize it?

(As for the original request of placeholder text in Photoshop: I'm just shaking my head with a sad, disappointed frown that anyone would even think of placing that much text in an Photoshop image. Mike, Mike, Mike… )

[jane-e]

davidblatner​ I only have an iPad with me now, so I’ll have to wait to try that “new-to-me” one out! Did you say that on your podcast and I missed it?

I’ve known Mike-from-Maryland for at least 20 years and can vouch for him that he is not thinking of placing that much text into a PS image. He just likes presets, especially when he can customize them. I think it’s that initial “Lorem ipsum” text that PS now displays that he wants to change.

David, I’m so sorry I won’t see you in Seattle next week, but am hoping for next year. Do you have a location yet?

~ Jane

[davidblatner]

jane-e​ Sorry you can't join us again this year at CreativePro Week… We'll be announcing our 2020 city and dates on Monday, June 10. I'm excited! I hope we'll see you in 2020.

Things we're celebrating at this year's conference:

• 30th anniversary of Photoshop (well, actually BarneyScan… it wasn't called Photoshop until 1990…)
• 20th anniversary of InDesign
• 20th anniversary of CreativePro.com
• 2,125th birthday of Cicero, creator of Lorum Ipsum

[Mike Witherell]

Hi Jane and all,

Perhaps I should explain a bit more in-depth:

In InDesign and Illustrator, if you put a textfile named placeholder.txt into the main app folder, both programs use your custom textfile to supply the so-called Lorem Ipsum sample text.

Lorem Ipsum is a scrambled set of Latin words taken originally from Cicero, a Roman Senator, in his writing "De Finibus Bonorum et Malorum" written circa 45 BC. For centuries, this has been used as sample placeholder text in typesetting tradition.

I found the English translation of that work, and saved it as a placeholder.txt file and I use it (occasionally) in InDesign and Illustrator.

Now, Photoshop has jumped in on the act. I was experimenting whether putting the placeholder.txt file in the main Photoshop CC 2019 application folder would also cause the same outcome, ... but it didn't.

Perhaps there is another way?

Mike in Maryland

[jane-e]

Mike-in-Maryland, knowing you, I thought that was where you were going with this. If you hadn’t asked the question, you would have been the one I asked.

Where did you find the English translation of Cicero’s work? And have you customized any of the classroom machines that I work on?

Put in a feature request to Photoshop Family Customer Community and post the link back here so we can vote. If Photoshop wants to keep adding type features like InDesign and Illustrator, they need to allow placeholder.txt and the ability to set tab stops.

Cheers,

Jane

[Mike Witherell]

Tab-Stops! Perish, forbid!

[jane-e]

Mike, would you rather cringe with horror when folk use periods and left-align the numbers because they are trying to format text using Photoshop?

[jane-e]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Mike+Witherell  wrote

Hi Jane and all,

Lorem Ipsum is a scrambled set of Latin words taken originally from Cicero, a Roman Senator, in his writing "De Finibus Bonorum et Malorum" written circa 45 BC. For centuries, this has been used as sample placeholder text in typesetting tradition. . . . I found the English translation of that work, 

Mike in Maryland

Hi Mike-in-Maryland,

Fascinating — you are the only one I know who would think to look for this

De finibus bonorum et malorum - Wikipedia

and

LacusCurtius • Cicero — de Finibus

except for (maybe) my brother. He's probably already read it in the original Latin.

[Mike Witherell]

Typesetting in Photoshop, in general, sends a shudder through me!

[jane-e]

As well it should!

[Norman Sanders]

All this fuss about tired old Lorem Ipsum while those of us who worked with those who sat at Linotype machines had a real hero: etaoin shrdlu - the keys in the first two columns of its keyboard. It had mystery, it had meaning, it had panache. It has gone the way of hot type, but it is not forgotten. Rest in peace etaoin shrdlu.

Curious? Go to Etaoin shrdlu - Wikipedia

[jane-e]

Norman, I love it!

[Mike Witherell]

Norman, I salute you! And I have read you. You are the REAL DEAL! I lift my glass of Merlot in the general direction of New York.

Mike in Maryland (with a tornado passing by at the moment)

[Trevor.Dennis]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Mike+Witherell  wrote

Norman, I salute you! And I have read you. You are the REAL DEAL! I lift my glass of Merlot in the general direction of New York.

Mike in Maryland (with a tornado passing by at the moment)

Wow Norman. Recognition of your fame.  Has anyone read one of Dag's books on colour spaces? 

Mike, I am honestly feeling inadequate for daring to use the Type tool in Photoshop.  On the other hand, they do say that graphic artists suffer a particularly acute form of OCD, and 1/20th of a point (less than two hundredths of a millimeter in real money) definitely qualifies as OCD.

Norman, Cemetery Road would be a good choice for a freebee — it's quite a long book.   I can remember seeing what might have been a Linotype machine in action on a school trip to the local paper (60 years ago).  As I remember it, a very old man sat at a giant type writer, and when he pressed a key a brass character dropped down a chute.  He put rows of characters into a wooden block which he hit with a hammer.  I'm fuzzy about the next bit, but I think the blocks somehow became a drum made out of lead, and this printed the paper. 

What I am unclear about is if you had constant exposure to lead fumes, how come you are still clever enough to understand LAB mode?

[jane-e]

Trevor.Dennis  wrote

Mike, I am honestly feeling inadequate for daring to use the Type tool in Photoshop.  On the other hand, they do say that graphic artists suffer a particularly acute form of OCD, and 1/20th of a point (less than two hundredths of a millimeter in real money) definitely qualifies as OCD.

Norman, Cemetery Road would be a good choice for a freebee — it's quite a long book.

Trevor, what could you possibly use the Type tool for in PS? Once you learn how it works in Illustrator and InDesign, you will never go back! I just checked and I still have 10 weeks before Cemetery Road comes up on my library list.

On the topic of OCD, the only place I am OCD is with typography. When it’s wrong, I cringe!

[Norman Sanders]

I can remember seeing what might have been a Linotype machine in action on a school trip to the local paper (60 years ago).  As I remember it, a very old man sat at a giant type writer, and when he pressed a key a brass character dropped down a chute.  He put rows of characters into a wooden block which he hit with a hammer.  I'm fuzzy about the next bit, but I think the blocks somehow became a drum made out of lead, and this printed the paper.

Trevor.Dennis , once you accept the fact that printing craftsmen are a macabre lot (burning kid's hands with hot metal), the odd terms they use have a consistency. For example:  Gothic fonts, a Printer’s Devil, Dragon’s Blood and Widow. Pretty grim stuff.  And what you saw was the Lino man breaking up and tossing unusable lines of type into the Hellbox – where later it was melted down and used in casting lines of type again.

It was truly a remarkable machine where matrices of the font were automatically returned to their correct place in the magazine to be used again – sometimes in the same printed page. (If one matrix was damaged, you could tell how many R’s, for example, are in the set by counting the R’s until the damaged letter reappeared in the text.)

What impressed me, even as a kid, was the ingenious solution to putting exactly equal space between words as he typed lines that were to be flush left and right.

Each space was a wedge, and at the end of typing the line he used a lever that brought up all the tapered wedges at one time to provide equal spacing before casting. Neat and obvious…once I knew the answer.

(By the way, the "blocks" were electro's (electroplates) made from a mold of the assembled newspaper page, and became a cylinder on a web press -- one that prints at high speed from a continuous roll of paper and with a flying paster that attached the end of one roll to the start of the next roll without stopping the press. Magic.)

[Chuck Uebele]

Trevor, we had a linotype machine in my college graphic arts class. The teacher just show us it running once, never got to actually use it. We did get to set type with a hot-metal Ludlow machine, and we had to hand set type to be run on a platen press. In high school, I used to work in a offset print shop, making line copy, halftones, and stripping in lithos into masking sheets for making offset plates.

[Trevor.Dennis]

norman.sanders  wrote

while those of us who worked with those who sat at Linotype machines had a real hero: etaoin shrdlu -

Norman, I finished Greg Iles 'Cemetery Road' last week, in which a Linotype machine saves the day towards the end of the book.  It's one of the better books I have finished in a while.