Nano Banana and confidentiality.

[Richard29664312ho5i]

Hi, 

I'm a designer who works mostly for big car companies. The company I'm currently with wants to start using AI everywhere possible, including design. They're all super dumb and just say the word AI a lot without knowing anything about how it works, and for design, we're mostly looking at image generation. 

I know Adobe are starting to roll out Nano Banana inside photoshop, but if i use it this way, is my work still confidential? I can't risk a new car being sent off to google to either be seen or even be used as training data. I wouldn't use Nano Banana or MJ etc. using my work as I'm sure it's not safe, but I wondered within Photoshop if Adobe can guarantee a level of privicy and keep my work confidencial. 

Thanks. 

[creative explorer]

@Richard29664312ho5i To ensure the highest level of security and protection, your company should verify that they have an Adobe Creative Cloud for Enterprise plan that includes the IP indemnification clause for Firefly features. https://business.adobe.com/products/firefly-business/firefly-ai-approach.html

[Richard29664312ho5i]

I actually have to buy my own license so I only have the Photography package as none business as far as I know. Does this mean I'm not covered by the IP indemnification?

[Conrad_C]

The indemnification is useful for marketing Firefly so that all customers feel more comfortable with it, but you’ve touched on an important point: It’s always been worded as an enterprise feature. In other words, I am not sure if it’s possible for an individual, with a single-user license, to be protected by it. For example, if you read the PDF file at this link (Firefly Legal FAQs – Enterprise Customers), it says:

12. Will Adobe indemnify its customers for Firefly outputs?
• Yes, if you have purchased the appropriate entitlement (which will require a new
contracting event), subject to the applicable terms, conditions, and exclusions.

To me, the words “entitlement” and “new contracting event” mean this is a feature that applies only to enterprises large enough that their legal team negotiates site license contracts directly with Adobe, instead of just signing up online like the rest of us do. But again I’m not sure and, this is something a lawyer or someone at Adobe should verify for you.

The other thing your lawyer should verify is that if indemnification isn’t available for single-user licenses, does that that if something goes horribly wrong, your large corporate client is indemnified, but your small business is not?

[Conrad_C]

One source is the Adobe web page Partner models in Adobe products. If you scroll down far enough, it says things like…

Are the outputs of partner models safe for commercial use?
We provide access to information on the partner models users can enable to use in Adobe apps, but it is the responsibility of the creator to decide whether partner models are appropriate for their project, taking into consideration factors such as the focus of the model, how it was trained, and whether or not it is safe for commercial use.

Please refer to the terms of service of the particular model that you are using.

Will Adobe or the partner models train on my uploaded or generated content?
No matter which generative AI models we may give a choice to use within our creative apps, user content is not and will not be used to train generative AI models.

And of course, have a lawyer look things over. For example, although Adobe does offer an indemnification clause for enterprises, it’s still currently phrased as a Firefly feature, which makes me think of the Firefly model only. It isn’t yet clear, at least to me, if that indemnification extends to non-Adobe generative AI models.

[c.pfaffenbichler]

Will Adobe or the partner models train on my uploaded or generated content?
No matter which generative AI models we may give a choice to use within our creative apps, user content is not and will not be used to train generative AI models.

I think this essentially answers the original question. 

Though I suppose technically it does no rule out that humans may view transfered images (for example if they get flagged for certain content). 

@Richard29664312ho5i , just to make sure: Are you (or your customers) aware of Firefly’s current limitations with regard to the pixel dimensions? 

So Firefly-created images may need considerable upscaling for billboards or other large-format material. 

[Richard29664312ho5i]

I work as a designer so 1080p-4k is generally good enough fow what we do, i assume a graphics and marketing team in the wider company would have more of an issue with resolution. The issue I'm facing is we're being asked to use AI as a tool but also being told to be extremely careful in light of a recent Jaguar Land Rover cyber attack (not the client i'm working for). To me, Gemini 2.5 Flash is a lot more capable and very much useable, and unfortubely the defult Firefly isn't really very helpful for us. 

I was hoping the answer would be striaght forward, which it doens't seem to be, however the last clause a few people have cited does seem to indicate the image on my screen will not be used as trainign data, then there becomes the question of who at these companies has access to see the images. But surely even before generative AI, if someone works at say BMW working on a new exterior design and saves their work to their adobe cloud, doesn't that mean tehcnially someone at Adobe can also see this? How secure are the legacy systems we've been using for years? I would love to speak to my inhouse IT team, but I think they'll always say we can't use something in the name of risk. 

[ExUSA]

Tell your client that its a bad idea. The legal landscape is still murky with regard to both usage and copyright. If you use AI models for commercial output, it could be a big mess for you later on.

[Conrad_C]

How secure are the legacy systems we've been using for years? I would love to speak to my inhouse IT team, but I think they'll always say we can't use something in the name of risk. 

By @Richard29664312ho5i

This is a good question because chances are, most of these companies are already using several outsourced cloud-based services that store lots of proprietary information, like possibly email, Office 360 and OneDrive cloud storage, SAP or other back-office administrative services, Salesforce or another CRM, Docusign or Adobe Acrobat sign for online legal signatures… 

[davescm]

One clue is that, when choosing an AI model in generative fill, only the Adobe Firefly models are labelled as 'Commercially Safe', which is understandable as Adobe can only control their own servers  Whether the other partner models are safe for a user's case, would be down to the user to research.

To quote from the Adobe help page, linked below : 'We will provide access to information about the non-Adobe models users can enable in Adobe apps. However, it is the creator’s responsibility to determine whether a non-Adobe model is suitable for their specific projects.'

https://www.adobe.com/ai/overview/firefly/gen-ai-approach.html#

Dave

Dave

[ampiascik]

Here is a good summary re: Nano banana use cases:
Is Nano Banana API Free?
The key phrases appear to be "free prototyping" and "For production or large-scale use, the API is billed on a pay-as-you-go basis, typically costing around $0.039–$0.05 per 1024×1024 image."