P: Photoshop 22.4 - Missing Save as formats from the menu

[Samuel5DFB]

I just updated to the mentioned version and the formats dropdown list only shows 3 formats: Photoshop (*.PSD;*.PDD;*.PSDT), *.PSB and TIFF (*.TIF;*.TIFF).

[c.pfaffenbichler]

»you could make this anoying 'could not export to clipboard' message go away.«

You could just turn off »Export Clipboard« and be done with it. 

»Or mabye Adobe could force you all to work 10 hour days using the product prior to being able to tinker on the code...«

Do you really think the programmers are the ones who push for releasing buggy software? 

How familiar are you with capitalism and decision making processes in large companies? 

[davescm]

As has been explained many times now, the push for the changes in the Save As / Save a Copy functions was Apple. When Apple changed their APIs in Catalina, application developers like Adobe were forced to rewrite the parts of the software that use them. This was not someone dreaming up what should we break, but developers looking at how to address the many complaints about the way Save As worked since Catalina.

Adobe did have a choice in whether to change the Windows version now, however alignment of the two versions has long been a principle. If they diverged those who cross platforms or develop actions and add ons would be crying foul, if not now, certainly down the line when the reasoning is forgotten.

Dave

[Haraer5E7B]

Suddenly today i can't save any file to JPEG

same file was ok yesterday but today all i see is three option (save as)

i can't save from PSD to JPEG (same for all the files wont save) (the files is 8bits - RGP - Not larg)

but if i flattned the image it will be ok

can someone help please

[davescm]

Since v 22.4, if your file contains items that are not supported in your required format (e.g. layers or 16 bits/channel, hidden pixels) then the file format is moved to the Save a Copy command. This was driven by changes in the Mac Operating System, although the changes are applied to both Mac and Windows versions to keep them aligned.


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Dave

[russs1073]

Thanks, @davescm   I found this last night, although I had a workaround with Export - Export as..

[davescm]

Export is an alternative but be aware that, being designed for web use, it does have file size restrictions and can strip out metadata such as ppi

Dave

[Haraer5E7B]

thank you for your answer

it was like you said

i know the selaution now

but it was OK yesterday

[davescm]

22.4 has just been rolled out in the last few days. Also if you have a simple document with only a background layer, no other layers, text layers or adjustment layers, 8 bit, no hidden pixels then jpeg will appear in Save As because with that document all its content is supported.

Dave

[Haraer5E7B]

Thank you for your help

[JJMack]

[talk2robby]

This is what I call, going backwards.  I remember having to do this in the 90's then things got automated with smart programming (I'm also a programmer a scrum master, yadda yadda).  Seriously!  I have to waste an hour trying to figure out what changed overnight.  Doing a simple screen print and a crop takes an hour.  We pay a hefty fee for this frustration.

[davescm]

As a programmer you will know when operating system APIs are removed or changed then the application developer has to change the application. These changes were driven by long reported issues since Catalina.

You will also know to always read the release notes before updating 🙂

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/whats-new.html


Dave

[mcqueenerboy]

@davescmI'm sorry but that's kind of an annoying response. I'm a highly knowledgable user of Photoshop for 15 years and an iOS developer, and yet (1) I didn't realize Photoshop had even updated until I went to "Save As" and (2) I would never bother to read release notes on Photoshop because when there's a major update they usually pop-up a tutorial about it. You're telling me they'll make a pop-up about how I can change the color of the sky but not about how the Save function is now different? Even if you take the generous viewpoint that this was the only solution, they dropped the ball on the rollout.

[davescm]

"I would never bother to read release notes on Photoshop...."

There comes a point where, as users, we have to take some responsibility for ourselves.

1. Turn off auto-updates. That way you get a notification of an update but you choose when to take it.

2. Always check the release notes before updating - that is for new features, what's fixed and known issues. None of this should be a surprise.

3. Never update a working system in the middle of a project.

4. If you want to be cautious - check these forums after an update is announced and before you take the update.

That way you know what you are getting and the only surprise might be if your system shows some incompatibility.

I apply all of the above to the operating system, drivers and the wide range of applications I use and, as a result, rarely get caught out.

Dave

[mcqueenerboy]

@davescm  I think you're misunderstanding me here. I wasn't "caught out" by this change. I figured it out right away because they included that helpful "Save a Copy" button next to the Save dropdown. But my next thought was "Oh no, this is not good."

The release notes don't eplain why this change was made. In fact they make it sound like a cool new "option". So any regular user would naturally respond with anger. "Why did you do this? I don't want this, this isn't an improvement." The only recourse is to visit these forums and eventually learn why this was done (hopefully the user will do that and not just assume the worst).

Now you tell me: Should every user be expected to visit the forums? Is that a realistic rollout plan?

What I'm doing is voicing a critique of Adobe/Photoshop. I don't need you to explain to me how to software.

[D Fosse]

Specifically, the API that allowed Photoshop to modify the file name (removing "-copy") was removed by Apple. The new API does not allow this.

There it is. You can dislike it, but the required API is no longer there. Zip. Gone.

[ianbutty]

Yet another crazy change to Photoshop.  First we have the whole pixel-based line problem (still not solved if you want to use arrowheads).  Now we can't "save as" into a different format!

It took me ages to discover that I could "save as" by selecting "save a copy" but now I'm forced to edit the file name to remove the word "copy" from the end of it.   Adobe is making their software less and less user friendly with every release.  And for this privilege, I am paying nearly £50 per month.

I am so close to ditching Adobe altogether.  

Adobe PLEASE restore the original save as functionality.

[jane-e]

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@ianbutty wrote:

Adobe PLEASE restore the original save as functionality.

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This is a user-to-user forum. Most of us are volunteers who do not work for Adobe. When you read though this entire thread, you will see this was caused by Apple, not Adobe. You can give feedback to Apple here:

https://www.apple.com/feedback/macos.html

~ Jane

[ianbutty]

I'm confused - I'm on PC so changes to Apple OS shouldn't affect those of us who are Windows users. 

[davescm]

The change was made on both Windows and Mac versions so that the functions are aligned on both. That has been a long standing principle. 

Dave

[ProDesignTools]

That's right – Photoshop needs to work the same on both macOS and Windows (and always has), otherwise other things will break like actions and plugins.

[Conrad_C]

Also if the Mac and Windows versions are allowed to diverge, everyone’s tutorials and classes would become much more complex for both teachers and students. Some platform differences are inevitable but that’s another reason they try to keep a lid on it.

[jerryt21340754]

Before the 5/14/2021 update, I could open a file in Photoshop from ACR as a 16-bit image and then select jpg under Save As and it would convert it to 8-bit and save as a jpg. Now jpg doesn't show as an option under Save As and I either have to go to Mode and manually change to 8-bit or use Save As Copy to select jpg and it will do the conversion, but with Copy in the file name. Why does it work in Save As Copy the way it's done for years in Save As and not work in Save As? How can I get back to the old, preferred setup?. (I did try reverting to the prior build, but now it is the same issue as the new build.)

[JJMack]

Adobe state they are protecting you from yourself.   There is name a new file menu item "Savs a Copy". You will need to edit all your actions that use Save As file Type  they will be interactive now and will switch to as  PSD..  It sound like  you think Adobe made more work for you  force you to alert you work flow and impacted your productivity.  You are not alone in that boat.

You can always use  "Savs a Copy"  instead of Save As it can save your work as well as "Save As",  "Save As" is not required.  Just change your Shift+Ctrl+S shortcut to "Save a Copy"  Basically its the old Save As

[Hjorthmedh]

Do you know if there is some option to just dont get the "copy" text appended to the filename when saving a jpeg. Having to delete the "copy" string every time I save the file is going to drive me nuts.