Photoshop CS4 is a disaster

[_ProArtist_]

I'm am just at a loss of words.

What a mess. It could not be any slower. What were you thinking Adobe?

You ripped apart the code just to add GPU support for what? To provide worse performance?

Make sure you DL the demo first... CS4 is a disaster.

The latest hardware cant even run it smoothly... Dont tell me its graphic drivers.

[Chris Cox]

I'm not sure if you misunderstood it, or if the tech support person got it really, really wrong.

[_Derrick_Moore_]

I don't doubt you, Chris, but CS4 definitely runs better on my Vista64
machine than my XP32 machine. With OpenGL on XP has a problem with
displaying images and cursors. XP also has a flickering with the title area
when zooming. These sound like driver problems but I'm running the same
driver version (nVidia 180.48) on both machines. Could be something with XP
that the tech was alluding to, but is it likely a lower level support person
would know this?
Both have lag problems zooming with the tabbed interface, however. The
regular window interface zooms fine on either monitor with Vista64, and fine
with XP32 on the primary monitor.
The machines run the same 8800 GTS card and have very similiar hardware.

[Chris Cox]

Yes, CS4 does run better on Vista. Microsoft did fix a lot of issues in Vista related to graphics, and cursors, and file IO, and...

[_Derrick_Moore_]

So you are aware of the secondary monitor problems in XP? What about the
smooth zooming discrepancy with tabbed vs. windowed viewing on both OS's?
I'd like to know if this a problem with my machines or expected behavior.

[_Sue_Surdam_]

Thanks for your response, Chris. So Windows XP with Direct9x isn't the problem then? I am using the trial awaiting the upgrade I ordered. I called because my floating windows don't redraw after dragging them to a new position, I have to click them to restore the photo.

[_Adam_Jerugim_]

Derrick: just to confirm, you are seeing worse performance with images when tabbed vs. floating (traditional)?

If so, I'll add that to my list.

[_Derrick_Moore_]

Yes I am, Adam. Thanks for listening.

> Derrick: just to confirm, you are seeing worse performance with images
> when tabbed vs. floating (traditional)?
>
> If so, I'll add that to my list.

[_James_wasneuski_]

I have an Asus gs1 laptop with an nvidia 8600m, I installed the latest drivers from Nvidia. I upgraded to cs4 from cs2. I love cs4 but it constantly crashes and the cursor keeps blinking and bridge wont open from within cs4. Adobe advertised cs4 as being able to use gpu's. They should of tested it more, because it doesnt work with mine. I hope they will have a fix soon. Cs4 is too expensive for these type of problems.

[Guest]

>Yes, CS4 does run better on Vista.

Then why on earth weren't we told this up front?? A simple "Vista recommended" would have certainly swayed my buying decision.

[Guest]

> Then why on earth weren't we told this up front??

Maybe it's just me, but I thought it was common knowledge. Even if not, still to be expected what with Vista being out well before CS4's release.

[_James_wasneuski_]

I have Vista on my laptop, and it still has problems.

[_ProArtist_]

Vista may run CS4 better than XP... but CS4 runs terrible all together due to bugs.

CS3 is far faster in all aspects on all windows OS's.

[Guest]

Funny that, the copy of CS4 I have has no bugs.

[Guest]

JJ: I got one of those copies too. Imagine that.

[_Phos_four_dots_]

Did you guys see ProArtist's latest reply before he trimmed it down?

" Vista does not run CS4 better. I dont care what you say. CS4 runs terrible on all OS's due to bugs in the software. CS3 runs faster on Vista than CS4.

I recommend staying with CS3 unless you really like punishment.

Adobe is looking into the performance problems with CS4, and so far there is no solutions.

Stay away from CS3. You've been warned. There is a trial. DL the trial and see for yourself. Make sure you give it a good going over, but if you're like most of us, you will notice right away that CS4 is ridiculously slower than CS3."

The chill pill must've kicked in.

😉 XD

[_ProArtist_]

yeah it did kick in... I cut it down to be more concise and clear because for one, i had a typo "stay away from Cs3"... should have been "CS4" :)

And i wanted it to be clear that CS3 runs better on Vista than CS4. CS4 may run better on Vista than XP, but its ridiculously slower than CS3.

I trimmed my rant down.

On a side note...

Unsharpen Mask is a lot slower in CS4. CS3 is almost realtime, while CS4 is very slow.

[BobLevine]

You should further clarify it to say that these are your findings on
your system.

CS4 is faster than CS3 on mine.

Bob

[_emil_emil_]

Hi,
I started a thread about a problem I'm having with Photoshop CS4 http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b71909/4
but I was told that this thread here is dedicated to similar issues. So please check the link above and consider my input as part of this thread. I started to read the messages here starting from the last one backwards hoping to find some solution to the problem but it is a long thread with a lot of noise and after going through a number of messages worth several pages, I decided to ask if someone current to all information here can kindly summarize it for me by answering a basic question.
Is there some suggestions in this thread that were helpful to users with problems like mine or is this thread something that users are hoping to make Adobe take notice and fix this problem?
I appreciate your help.

[Guest]

James,
You do know your laptop has well documented GPU issues right? I "used" to own the same laptop as yours. I didn't not have any problems but there are a lot of GPU's that have failed or have rendering problems.

Nvidia has spoken on the issues and also you can find all sorts of information on the ASUS website forums.

Here is a website that you can, if you wish, to look into updating drivers on your own. Use at your own risk. Do a system restore first.
You already may know of this site.

Hope this helps you out.

www.laptopvideo2go.com

[_James_wasneuski_]

David, Thanks for your reply. Laptopvideo2go is where I got the latest drivers from. I tried the latest and several others, none worked well. I also saw that the 8600m was supposed to have been tested with cs4. I never had any 'issues' with cs2, or any other programs, even with vista, on this laptop. The only issues were with cs4.

[Chris Cox]

emil - did you read the thread? The most commonly reported problems are solved with driver or DirectX updates. There are still some remaining issues that Adobe is looking into.

Just because Adobe tested with a particular card or chipset does not mean Adobe tested with your specific configuration -- Adobe can't account for all the variations in hardware, drivers, and other software installed on your system. For the majority of users, CS4 is working fine. For some users, it isn't working well - but different people are seeing slightly different problems, due to issues with the video drivers, other software, some OS components (thank you DirectX), and some possible bugs in Photoshop.

(please remember that CS3 and previous versions of Photoshop didn't even try to use your GPU, now we're using it rather heavily, and exposing problems in the driver and OS support)

[_James_wasneuski_]

so your saying im out of luck, because Adobe cant check all configs, I can kiss my 2oo dollars goodby?

[Guest]

You have 30 day to return photoshop or you can buy hardware that it will work with.

[penderra]

"You have 30 day to return photoshop or you can buy hardware that it will work with"

So, is there a definitive list of hardware that it WILL work with? Perhaps Adobe should post the list that they tested it on before CS4 was released? Perhaps they should put a disclaimer on the software box that CS4 is not guaranteed to work in all situations?

[Guest]

> No software is guaranteed to work in all situations.

I realise quite a few people are justifiably p!ssed off with the current situation, but let's keep it real!