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Copy And Paste doe nos do any scalin. Place is designed to scale the File Image being Place id the Image File has a Print resolution the the Docuumeny it is beinf Place into. Its is strange and can noe be disabled. The Scaling is a Place feature Adobe feals the uset should want.
1. Will turn off the interactive Transform UI the Layer will still be scaled when there is a Resolution missmatch.
2. If the smart object layer is larger then the Canvas Place will scale the Layer Pixels to fi
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This needs to be changed and i've brought it up over and over, but no one at Adobe seems to understand of big of a problem it actually is.
By Earth Oliver
A big part of the whole purpose of smart objects is compatibility with vector data and Illustrator. It's hard to imagine how you could have an .ai smart object in Photoshop if it was all based on pixels.
I agree that inside Photoshop, it's a bit counter-intuitive to start thinking in terms of sizes instead of pixels. It's against all our instincts. But that's how it has to be, those are the rules. As long as you're aware of it, it's not a problem. Basically, just make sure the ppi numbers match.
Pixels can be translated into sizes through the ppi number. The reverse is not possible for pure vector data.
Make sure that the current Active Document resolution setting is the same as the Image File's Print resolution that you are placing in. Place will scale the smart object layer up or down in size if the Resolution are not the same. Instead menu File>Place Embedded... with the following script you could try menu File>Scripts>placeImageNoDegrade....
You can also open the Image In Photoshop and do a select all Copy Merge to Clipboard and Paste into other document. Copy/Paste, Dragging Layers will not create a smart object layer you will get your Image in as a new Raster layer. Adobe feels that Place's Scaling makes Photoshop more or less like their vector program AI. Other find the scaling strange. In Any case Place creates the Smart Object hardened pixels correctly with your image actual pixels. then scale the layer. Smart object Layers are very useful.... Place is just odd.
PlaceNoDegrade.jsx
// June 2019 John J. McAssey (JJMack)
// This attempt to add an Additional Photoshop Place Embedded No Degrade feature under menu file scripts listed under Image Processor
// File>Scripts>placeImageNoDegrade... Embedded Image without a Degrading Resizing based on file print DPI setting.
// The Photoshop Preferences Resize During Place if set will scale large object to be scaled to fit on canvas
// The function placeImageNoDegrade(file) is designed for use in scripts to place in image files a default size and not lose image quality.
// This Script supports PSD, Tiff, Jpeg, PNG and Camera Raw file placement. However, Camera RAW files have no print DPI
// for they are not printable. This script assumes your default Camera RAW work-flow conversion is to a 300DPI resolution
// The following Image Filetype are not supported for Photoshop support is not what it should be IMO or the file poor or to large to embed
// or are not commonly used by me.: PSB SVG AI BMP GIF EPS PDF DCS DICOM IFF Jpeg2000 PCX PDF Pixar PBM Targa etc...
// This script is supplied as is. It is provided as freeware.
// The author accepts no liability for any problems arising from its use.
/* Help ]
<javascriptresource>
<name>$$$/JavaScripts/placeImageNoDegrade/Menu=placeImageNoDegrade...</name>
<about>JJMack's placeImageNoDegrade Copyright 2019 Mouseprints Place without degrading image quality</about>
<category>aaaThisPutsMeAtTheTopOfTheMenu</category>
<enableinfo>true</enableinfo>
</javascriptresource>
*/
if (!documents.length) alert('There are no documents open.', 'No Document');
else {
if (!CheckVersion(13)) { alert("Photoshop version CS6+ is required.")}
else {
var imageFile;
imageFile = selectFile ();
if (imageFile==null) alert("No Image Files Selected", 'Cancelled');
else if (!imageFile.name.match(/\.(crw|nef|raf|orf|mrw|dcr|mos|raw|pef|srf|dng|x3f|cr3|cr2|erf|sr2|kdc|mfw|arw|nrw|rw2|rwl|iiq|3fr|fff|srw|gpr|dxo|heic|arq|cr3|psd|psb|jpg|jpe|jpeg|png)$/i) ) alert(imageFile.name, 'Not a Supported Image Filetype');
else placeImageNoDegrade(imageFile);
}
}
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// Helper Functions //
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
function CheckVersion(PSV) {
var numberArray = version.split(".");
if ( numberArray[0] < PSV ) { return false; }
return true;
}
function selectFile (multi) {
if (multi == true) {var theString = "please select Image files"}
else {var theString = "please select one image file"};
if ($.os.search(/windows/i) != -1) {var theFiles = File.openDialog (theString, '*.crw;*.nef;*.raf;*.orf;*.mrw;*.dcr;*.mos;*.raw;*.pef;*.srf;*.dng;*.x3f;*.CR3;*.cr2;*.erf;*.sr2;*.kdc;*.mfw;*.arw;*.nrw;*.rw2;*.rwl;iiq;*.3fr;*.fff;*.srw;*.gpr;*.dxo;*.heic;*.arq;*.cr3;*.psd;*.psb;*.tif;*.tiff;*.jpg;*.jpe;*.jpeg;*.png', multi)}
else {var theFiles = File.openDialog (theString, getFiles, multi)}; ////// filter files for mac //////
function getFiles (theFile) {
if (theFile.name.match(/\.(crw|nef|raf|orf|mrw|dcr|mos|raw|pef|srf|dng|x3f|cr3|cr2|erf|sr2|kdc|mfw|arw|nrw|rw2|rwl|iiq|3fr|fff|srw|gpr|dxo|heic|arq|cr3|psd|psb|tif|tiff|jpg|jpe|jpeg|png)$/i) || theFile.constructor.name == "Folder") return true;
};
return theFiles
};
function placeImageNoDegrade(file) {
var orig_resolution = app.activeDocument.resolution; // Get document Resolution (Read only change via image resize)
var orig_ruler_units = app.preferences.rulerUnits; // Save Units
app.preferences.rulerUnits = Units.PIXELS; // Set the ruler units to PIXELS
// Thanks to SuperMerlin gets image Files Print resolution
if (file.name.match(/\.(crw|nef|raf|orf|mrw|dcr|mos|raw|pef|srf|dng|x3f|cr3|cr2|erf|sr2|kdc|mfw|arw|nrw|rw2|rwl|iiq|3fr|fff|srw|gpr|dxo|heic|arq|cr3)$/i)) printDPI= 300;
else {
if ( !ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript ) ExternalObject.AdobeXMPScript = new ExternalObject('lib:AdobeXMPScript');
var xmpf = new XMPFile( File(file).fsName, XMPConst.UNKNOWN, XMPConst.OPEN_FOR_READ );
var xmp = xmpf.getXMP();
if(xmp.doesPropertyExist(XMPConst.NS_TIFF, "XResolution")){
var res = xmp.getProperty(XMPConst.NS_TIFF, "XResolution");
res = res.toString().split("/");
printDPI= res[0]/res[1]
}
else printDPI= 72;
}
if(orig_resolution!=printDPI) app.activeDocument.resizeImage(null, null, printDPI, ResampleMethod.NONE);
// Place in the file
var idPlc = charIDToTypeID( "Plc " );
var desc5 = new ActionDescriptor();
var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
desc5.putPath( idnull, new File( file ) );
var idFTcs = charIDToTypeID( "FTcs" );
var idQCSt = charIDToTypeID( "QCSt" );
var idQcsa = charIDToTypeID( "Qcsa" );
desc5.putEnumerated( idFTcs, idQCSt, idQcsa );
var idOfst = charIDToTypeID( "Ofst" );
var desc6 = new ActionDescriptor();
var idHrzn = charIDToTypeID( "Hrzn" );
var idPxl = charIDToTypeID( "#Pxl" );
desc6.putUnitDouble( idHrzn, idPxl, 0.000000 );
var idVrtc = charIDToTypeID( "Vrtc" );
var idPxl = charIDToTypeID( "#Pxl" );
desc6.putUnitDouble( idVrtc, idPxl, 0.000000 );
var idOfst = charIDToTypeID( "Ofst" );
desc5.putObject( idOfst, idOfst, desc6 );
executeAction( idPlc, desc5, DialogModes.NO );
if(orig_resolution!=printDPI) app.activeDocument.resizeImage(null, null, orig_resolution, ResampleMethod.NONE);
app.preferences.rulerUnits = orig_ruler_units; // Reset units to original settings
return app.activeDocument.activeLayer;
}
Copy And Paste doe nos do any scalin. Place is designed to scale the File Image being Place id the Image File has a Print resolution the the Docuumeny it is beinf Place into. Its is strange and can noe be disabled. The Scaling is a Place feature Adobe feals the uset should want.
1. Will turn off the interactive Transform UI the Layer will still be scaled when there is a Resolution missmatch.
2. If the smart object layer is larger then the Canvas Place will scale the Layer Pixels to fit on canvas
3. If you do not create a smart object the scaling done by Place will have degraded your Image, If you have place create a smart object the object pixels will be your Images Pixels and you can recover your Images Pixels by scaling the Smart object Layer the have the numbers of Pixels you Smart Object and your image has.
Like you at first I thought that this was a bad bug that Place was inconsistent. However doing what you have posted made me realize the Place was actually consistent that Adobe built into Place this stupidity scaling thinking it was making Place more liked how AI handle vector editing. Even though Photoshop is a Pixel editor. Many do not like that Place was implement with this scaling of object built in. The only was to avoid this Resolution mismatch Scaling it to eliminate the the mismatch via script like the one I posted.
The step you posted demonstrate the Scaling that Adobe has implemented in Place. You force Place to scale by miss matching the two resolutions.
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