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Inspiring
February 4, 2023
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Quitting Photoshop on Close

  • February 4, 2023
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I see several posts regarding issues when trying to close Photoshop and it wont close. The advice is to Force Quit the app. What I am trying to understand is different. Simply, with all other apps on a Macbook, when I "close" the app using the red dot or menu, the app closes/quits. There is no process running for that app. However, with Photyoshop, either as a LR plugin or standalone, closing the app results in Photoshop still active in the dock. I can close it manually, but searching to understand why it doesnt quit when closed and clear the dock. Note that its not processing anything.

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Participating Frequently
August 23, 2024

There is a difference between 'close' and 'quit' on a Mac. Close means that you close the window and the app remains running. If you want to quit the app, you must 'quit' it by clicking on the app name and choosing Quit Photoshop. 

Jeff Arola
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February 9, 2023
PECourtejoie
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February 7, 2023

Hello, the apps that quit with the red button are single-windows ones. 

Inspiring
February 9, 2023

I just got back and posted aa response above with screenshots. I'm starting to understand but still puzzled. Please see above.

gener7
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February 7, 2023

Clicking the red button in the upper-left corner closes the workspace window and any open document windows, but not Photoshop. The menu is still at the top indicating Photoshop is still active. If you click the Ps Dock icon, the workspace (toolbar, and panels) return. However since your documents were closed with the workspace, you have to re-open them again.

 

So use Photoshop > Quit from the menu bar or its' shortcut Cmd-q to properly exit Photoshop.

 

If that does not respond, hold down the Option key and long press on the Ps Dock icon to get the "Force quit" option in the icon menu.

 

Ps 2023/MacOS 12.6.3

Inspiring
February 9, 2023

I posted a response above with screenshots and hoping you see it. There are still unexplainable inconsistencies in my mind. Thanks for taking time for this.

gener7
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February 9, 2023

I understand your confusion with how various Adobe programs close, but someone reminded me that Adobe programs are not developed under one roof by one team, but in many locations and each team would have their own reasons. Non-disclosure agreements hide those reasons from those of us outside the programming staff.

 

That's why it's better just to stay away from the red button and use Cmd-Q to exit all single and multiple window MacOS progams if you want that consistency.

NB, colourmanagement
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February 7, 2023

You're right, clicking the red button top left of Photoshop's main window closes the window but does. not quit the application.

I THINK that's normal mac behaviour. 

[granted some mac apps do it]

The red button quit is like a Win thing, clicking the X quits on Win. 

My habit for many years is to either quit from the menu, or from the dock icon. Or command Q of course. 

 

 

 

I hope this helps
neil barstow, colourmanagement net - adobe forum volunteer - co-author: 'getting colour right'
google me "neil barstow colourmanagement" for lots of free articles on colour management

c.pfaffenbichler
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February 6, 2023

Could you please post screenshots? 

 

The red button can be used to close a document, but has no relevance for the application itself in Photoshop. 

Which menu item are you referring to with »when I "close" the app using the red dot or menu«? File > Quit? 

Inspiring
February 6, 2023
In ANY application except Photoshop, when you close the application it quits the application. When I am done working in Photoshop and start other tasks I find Photoshop still running and must once again close it from the toolbar.

Screenshots are not going help. It's simply to your comment above. Why doesnt the app completely shutdown when you close, exit or quit it like other apps, including Lightroom?

Thanks,


Jim

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Conrad_C
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February 10, 2023

Thanks Conrad. I know you are correct and I trust the same, but to your comment... that it makes sense to programmers, not users... here is my problem. You are asked to quit LR because of possibly many documents but you are not asked in PS even though you may have spent days editing one image? Pick a workflow for all Adobe products. You mention LR does not have a SAVE and PS does. Again, that makes no sense. They both are editors. I use Lightroom and CameraRaw. They do the same thing! In addition, when I use PS as a plug-in and shutdown LR, LR closes but PS stays open, even though I saved the PS image back into LR. Thats just silly. These applications are very mature and widely embraced in the creative community. But I am new to them and the inconsistecy is troubling. Learning Photoshop is a nightmare because it is not inuitive. When you try what makes sense it doesnt work. The many, many, many shortcuts are like...click on CTRL+R to move LEFT instead of CTRL+L. Its maddening. But this issue of closing or not I was hopeful was related to Preferences/Settings or a programming mistake. I had no idea there would be other reasons.


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... here is my problem. You are asked to quit LR because of possibly many documents but you are not asked in PS even though you may have spent days editing one image? Pick a workflow for all Adobe products. You mention LR does not have a SAVE and PS does. Again, that makes no sense. They both are editors. I use Lightroom and CameraRaw. They do the same thing!

By @jamesgerboc

 

It actually makes sense from the perspective of how each applications works, and they don’t work the same way.

 

Photoshop follows an older model, more like Microsoft Word: If you want to work on a document, you open the document, it appears in its own window or tab, and you must use a Save command.

 

Lightroom Classic follows a newer model that is actually quite common now in many recent Mac and Windows applications — for example, Apple Photos now works in exactly the same way. When you want to work on a photo in Lightroom Classic, you do not “open” it but simply select it, and when you make an edit, you do not have to remember to “save” because it automatically saves every edit you make as soon as you finish it. (This is why applications like Lightroom Classic and Apple Photos have no File > Save command on their menus.) If you just now moved the Exposure slider, when you let go that changed is saved in the Lightroom Classic catalog database. And again, unlike Photoshop, it is possible to sync or paste edits to hundreds of photos at once, and as soon as you finish that, all those edits are saved to all those hundreds of photos at once. All those changes and you did not have to remember to save.

 

So, that should help make it clear:

 

Photoshop uses the old model where you must use a Save command, so if you are going to quit and a document has unsaved changes, you must be asked if you want to save before quitting.

 

Lightroom Classic uses the newer model where there isn’t even a File > Save command because saving is done for you with every edit, so when you quit, naturally there is no need to ask you if you want to save before quitting. (This is a slightly different question than being asked if you want to quit.)