Recent changes to file saving in photoshop 2023 with MacBook Pro M1 Pro

[roisenp]

Open photoshop today did some work and followed my normal procedure after working on some photo.  Today THREE issues came up:

#1  the size of the tiff files being created from CR3 are double what they were last time I work on them  (now 100MB or larger).   No Idea what has happened to create that except Bridge 2022 was replace by Bridge 2023.  I cannot imagine why they would be come so large all of a sudden like that.  Thoughts or fixes?

#2  I have used Automate and Batch for saving my files to tiff and jpeg for years on end with PS.  It would first save the tiff file then the jpeg file with two clicks.  When I tried it to day there was NO option to select jpeg even from "save a copy".  I finally solved that but it takes an  extra step to select the jpeg option everytime.  Extremely frustrating and slow.  Any suggestions?

#3  Most frustrating of all:  When I save to jpeg it no longer gives a file size when you move the slider to selected from small to large.  You just have to guess,usually to large or too small, which means doing it again and try to remember what what number you picked last time.   The message reads "Preview and file sizes are only available for 8-bit images.  More previewing options available in Save for Web.   I cannot see the file size until I go back to the folder it was saved to to check it.  This is true for jpeg (and also for png).  This is just nuts.  When did this start and what are the options for a better workflow?  Thanks, Paul

[S_Gans]

I can't speak to #1, but for #2 and #3, you may want to change your Export preferences to JPEG. Then, to so your Save As..., instead choose File>Export>Export As 
In that dialog box, you can use your slider, and still see your resulting file size.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

You don't need to use export to go to Jpg format - change the preference in File Handling.

That enables the traditional Save As and shows the size when using the slider.

It resolves batch scripts that utilized the original Save As functionality.

[roisenp]

Kevin,
Thanks for the information. I am apparently saving from a file that has
a bit depth greater than 8-Bit. I have been using this same format for
several years and had never seen this message before (see attached screen
shot). I have been using actions to save to Tiff then jpeg for many years
and have never run into this jpeg limitation. I cannot see the size in mb
but only in numberical value like 1-2-3-4- etc. Depending on the size of
my CR3 file and cropping I can no longer see the actual size, in MBs, until
I see it in my folder.

It has been suggested that if I change to 8-bit prior, I would get my JPEG
Options preview checkbox.
*Two question*s: 1) What may have caused this change where I no longer
see the size box as I used to?
2) What effect, if any, would changing to
8-bit, down from 16-bit or 32-bit, have on the jpeg or for that matter the
tiff quality?

*Paul O. Roisen*
*Woodbury County, IA*
*Mobile 712-301-2817*

[roisenp]

See my my email reply above and screen shot below.

[thisispeak]

Hi Paul,

Re #2 above, simplyfying things a little:

Standard JPEGs are an 8-Bit colour space/file, so you always, whatever the route, will be loosing some colour information if you're starting with a 16 or 32-Bit file. In most cases this isn't an issue as many output devices (printers for example, offset, projectors, cheap displays) will often not be able to render/represent all the colours in a 16/32-Bit file.

If you're working from and keeping a RAW file, which is the usual practice nowadays of course, and will therefore always have access to the 'full' image/camera data (most cameras are 12~14-Bit), you can always 'return' to this if you need access to that 'full' colour info again. So, it might not necessarily be a disadvantage, at the appropriate stage of your workflow, to change your TIFFs to 8-Bit and save (but people will have differents views on this, depending on preffered workflows) – you'll be saving on disk space for one thing.

Personally it depends of the job/file/situation on whether I keep 16-Bit TIFFs as workfiles; I always do with filmscans (for obvious reasons I hope)…

Some reference (Disclaimer: I've not checked these for 'acuracy'!):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/bit-depth.html

https://fstoppers.com/education/what-bit-depth-and-why-does-it-matter-your-photography-300190

[thisispeak]

Hi Paul,

With #3, I'm guessing you're saving from a file that has a bit depth greater than 8-Bit; if you change to 8-bit prior, you'll get your JPEG Options preview checkbox.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

To resolve the jpg issue go to Preferences/File Handling and enable "Use Legacy Save As".

[lisaf66839971]

"Export as..." saved the day. A million thanks to S_Gans!