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Updating/relinking linked vector smart object changes object location.

Participant ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

I have an illustrator file with several artboards linked to PS file. On some occasions, when updating the smart object (Update Modified Content), the location changes. What could cause this? What i have noticed is that when i hit ctrl + T, the object appears bigger in transform mode. But this is always not the case.

 

Smart object after updating modified content ( yellow lines is copy of original placement):

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Mentor , Feb 04, 2022 Feb 04, 2022

yes, you need to update to the latest and try again. Bugs get patched all the time and if you're a year behind, there's a good chance it's been fixed already.

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Participant , Feb 08, 2022 Feb 08, 2022

Yes. Thanks! 23.1.1 works. Although one detail still moves a few mm, but i guess we can call this answered. 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

Does it occur if there is only one artboard.

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Participant ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

Yes. Deleted all artboards, and it still does it. 

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

Did you crop to »Trim« when placing the linked Smart Object or something like »Bounds«? 

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Participant ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

Always crop to bounding box

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Community Expert ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

That seems imprudent. 

If you add or remove or move elements in Illustrator the Bounding Box can naturally change (if the affected elements include the leftmost, topmost, rightmost or lowermost). 

 

Edit: Try Trim Box. 

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Participant ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

Tried relinking the object using Trim box, but it still moves. Am i doing something wrong?

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Community Expert ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

That it would move when you relink with another Box seems expectable. 

But after having set it to Trim Box: Does it move when updating the SO later on? 

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Participant ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

I replaced all smart objects with new trim box objects and as soon as i update the illustrator file, the issue still appears. 

 

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

By providing a frame of reference that does not depend on the visible objects and their position (Trim Box) one should be able to maintain the position of objects in the linked Vector Smart Object that have not been moved. 

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Participant ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

I tried all 5 crop options, but the same issue is still there.

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

Can you provide the files? 

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Mentor ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

If i recall, this is a very, very old bug that may or may not have been fixed.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 01, 2022 Feb 01, 2022

Seems to work as expected here, but I did not test extensively. 

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Participant ,
Feb 02, 2022 Feb 02, 2022

That is not what i am doing. I place each artboard as a separate object. I do not move them around in my Illustrator file. 

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 02, 2022 Feb 02, 2022

»I do not move them around in my Illustrator file.«

So what do you do before updating?

 

Can you provide the files? 

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Participant ,
Feb 02, 2022 Feb 02, 2022
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»I do not move them around in my Illustrator file.«

So what do you do before updating?

 

Can you provide the files? 


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I change the visible layer

 

I tried more and maybe someone can confirm this: When there are clipping masks used in the illustrator file, that have objects inside which are bigger than the artboard, then the issue occurs since the trim box, or any other box changes based on the hidden objects?

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Community Expert ,
Feb 02, 2022 Feb 02, 2022

I cannot reproduce that so far. 

 

The Trim Box depends on the dimensions of the artboard/page, not the objects on it.

That’s why it makes sense using it instead of Bounding Box when one fiddles around with the visible content. 

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Participant ,
Feb 02, 2022 Feb 02, 2022

Can you try with this file? 

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m1V7sRVIOYgrqPZl0poudHlkQn9iYwKa/view?usp=sharing

 

This is my result:

 

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Participant ,
Feb 02, 2022 Feb 02, 2022

When i put a colored background rectangle to the artboard, the issue stops. See right vs left. 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 02, 2022 Feb 02, 2022

Seems to work fine here. 

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Participant ,
Feb 02, 2022 Feb 02, 2022

What if you delete the background layer?

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Community Expert ,
Feb 02, 2022 Feb 02, 2022

Makes no difference here. 

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Participant ,
Feb 02, 2022 Feb 02, 2022

Weird. My first time now also works. but when i update the smart object a second time the issue appears. 

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Participant ,
Feb 04, 2022 Feb 04, 2022

Is there anywhere i can find more info on this? Or share it with adobe?

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