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Verifying Content Credentials

Engaged ,
Jan 21, 2024 Jan 21, 2024
  • Background: With the explosion of generative fill and AI, I need some guidance from the community on what could be current limitations regarding verifying the Content Credentials of other people's images (created by using Adobe’s products or other companies' products).

 

Questions &Limitations :

  • Where can you verify:
    Is Verify (https://contentcredentials.org/verify) the primary location where you can verify content credentials? Or are there other locations?
  • Downloading Required:
    It seems that you must download the file you want to verify and then drag and drop or upload that to verify.
    For most social networking sites, it looks like downloading will strip away the credentials.  As a result, how can you verify images on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc?

 

Thank you for your assistance.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 22, 2024 Jan 22, 2024

Have you tried Photoshop’s Content Credentials Panel (Windows > Content Credentials (Beta))? 

 

Are you sure it’s the downloading that strips the data and that it has not been stripped prior to uploading? 

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Engaged ,
Jan 23, 2024 Jan 23, 2024

c.pfaffenbichler:
This is the workflow I used:

  • Creation: Yes, I used the Content Credentials panel and “Enabled” Content Credentials and then ran Generative fill on the image.
  • Verify: I uploaded the final product to Verify and all of the information showed correctly.
  • Social Media: I then uploaded the image to test accounts I created on both Facebook and X/Twitter
  • Download: I then accessed my main Facebook and X/Twitter accounts and downloaded the image from both test accounts.
  • Verify: I uploaded the two downloaded images to Verify and all of the Content Credentials information had been removed and was replaced by the image and a message directly underneath that said:
    “Twitter Content Credentials”                                “Facebook Content Credentials”
    “No Content Credentials”                                        “No Content Credentials”.
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Community Expert ,
Jan 22, 2024 Jan 22, 2024

@KostFan2 its nearly impossible to strip away these credentials - even copying/pasting to a new document brings them with.

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Engaged ,
Jan 23, 2024 Jan 23, 2024

Kevin:
Please see the work flow I posted in response to c.pfaffenbichler above

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Community Expert ,
Jan 23, 2024 Jan 23, 2024

@Kevin Stohlmeyer What Code giveth, Code taketh away. The Content Credentials initiative is well-meaning, but no software solution exists that can't be bypassed or rendered ineffective. It cannot be more effective than platforms and their users are honest. The Venn diagram of 
"social media companies" and "honest, responsible companies" has much less overlap than is healthy.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 23, 2024 Jan 23, 2024

@AlanGilbertson edited for clarification - you can strip but there will be a trail via the cloud Verify:

https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/help/content-credentials.html

"Content Credentials are a new kind of tamper-evident metadata...Over time, if a piece of content undergoes different stages of editing or processing, it can also accumulate multiple Content Credentials"

@KostFan2 did you export your image to embed the Content Credentials in the image or did you side-car a file? Saving wont enable.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 23, 2024 Jan 23, 2024

@KostFan2 the reason Im asking how you exported your CC with your file makes a difference with what is retained when uploading:

Attached Content Credentials are less resilient and can be stripped from your content when published or shared online.

Published to the Content Credentials cloud This method reduces file sizes and improves their resiliency. If they’re ever stripped from your content, they can be recovered with Verify.

So even if your CC metadata is stripped - if saved to the cloud you can still verify.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 23, 2024 Jan 23, 2024

@KostFan2 I see you did upload to Verify sorry about that. I'll pass this along to the team - it should show your original CC verification when using the service even after Social Media strips it away.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 24, 2024 Jan 24, 2024

@KostFan2 the team is escalating and may reach out to you directly for more details. Look for a DM or request in a reply on this thread. Thanks for the information!

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Engaged ,
Jan 24, 2024 Jan 24, 2024
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Kevin:
Thank you.  You Community Experts are wonderful!  The last time I found an issue that had to be escalated, it took me 3 calls with Adobe phone support and over 4 hours of my time.

   

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