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What is the best way for outlining a subject with fine hair to copy and drop into a new background

Advisor ,
Feb 18, 2023 Feb 18, 2023

I know I can draw paths with the pen tool which is fine for many subjects but not easy for fine hair and where I don't want to spend months doing an outline. I also know selecting a subject in Lightroom or Photoshop is also only a start and not for more detailded and intricate subjects. Should I do it all by hand with the pen tool? Or, I thought I would ask amongst the experts here just to be sure there is not a better way. Thanks for help with this. 

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Community Expert , Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

Hi,

 

Yes, there are a number of ways you could approach this task. If you have good contrast between your foreground character and the background you could try a colour range slection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nk1KkLn3CM

 

 

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Community Expert , Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

Please post (the pertinent section of) one of the images in question. 

Depending on the image one could use one of the channels as the basis for a Layer Mask. 

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Community Expert , Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

@Ken Nielsen wrote:

I thought I would ask amongst the experts here just to be sure there is not a better way.

 

Yes, there is a better way. Watch this tutorial from Jesús Ramirez on how to paint the fine hair back in. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYt23sAPP50

 

Jane

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Community Expert , Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

Hi Ken,

My sister kept Wolfhounds for many years.  She especially loves Borzois.

 

Separating hair from grass can be challenging. I would start with the Quick Selection Tool to make a rough marching ant outline and then refine it in Quick Mask mode using a small soft round brush (white reveals, black conceals).  

 

Use the Navigator panel to zoom in/out and move to other image areas. 

Change brush size with square bracket keys.  [ = smaller,  ] = bigger.  

Take your time. Masking work like this

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Community Expert , Feb 20, 2023 Feb 20, 2023

The pads of the paws that are partially covered pose an additional problem and, depending on the new background, they may need painting/clone stamping/…

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Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

Hi,

 

Yes, there are a number of ways you could approach this task. If you have good contrast between your foreground character and the background you could try a colour range slection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nk1KkLn3CM

 

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

Please post (the pertinent section of) one of the images in question. 

Depending on the image one could use one of the channels as the basis for a Layer Mask. 

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Advisor ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

Just an example of 'show dogs' I would be outlining and placing on different backgrounds.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

Hi Ken,

My sister kept Wolfhounds for many years.  She especially loves Borzois.

 

Separating hair from grass can be challenging. I would start with the Quick Selection Tool to make a rough marching ant outline and then refine it in Quick Mask mode using a small soft round brush (white reveals, black conceals).  

 

Use the Navigator panel to zoom in/out and move to other image areas. 

Change brush size with square bracket keys.  [ = smaller,  ] = bigger.  

Take your time. Masking work like this takes patience but it's doable.

 

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Hope that helps.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
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Advisor ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

Say hi to your Sister for me. They are a privelege to own. Thanks for the insight. I will give it my patience and my time.

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Feb 20, 2023 Feb 20, 2023

The pads of the paws that are partially covered pose an additional problem and, depending on the new background, they may need painting/clone stamping/…

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Feb 20, 2023 Feb 20, 2023
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Yes, I have lots of photos to borrow feet from. I have done studio shots but outdoor action is the best for showing off the subject. Thanks to all  for the excellent help with this.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

@Ken Nielsen wrote:

I thought I would ask amongst the experts here just to be sure there is not a better way.

 

Yes, there is a better way. Watch this tutorial from Jesús Ramirez on how to paint the fine hair back in. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYt23sAPP50

 

Jane

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