P: Provide support for Linux (2011)

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I was wondering if Adobe released any Photoshop versions for Linux? Because I looked everywhere in Adobe's site but I could not find any information.

[chiddekel]

The Adobe has developer with skils to code outstanding functionality in their software. It's not market share it's what library and the stack Software can be easy migrate to Linux with existed code base. It's just to much work to make Fedora or Ubuntu Version.Why?

For Linux we have now only reasonable "Portal API" is system agnostic.

For 2D is skia.

For 3D opengl on Linux we can use messa.

For Gnome we have developer platform guide.

For KDE we have developer platform guide too.

For packages there is Deb (Ubunt) and RPM (Fedora) format.

Universal package :package: on Linux: Flatpak, Snap, Appimages.

https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/portal-api-reference.html

https://skia.org/about/

https://www.mesa3d.org/

https://developer.gnome.org/

https://develop.kde.org/docs/

https://snapcraft.io/

https://appimage.org/

[chiddekel]

There is one solution that could work out of the box.

Compile the whole software against wine library.

In such way - there is possibility to incorporate the wine source library. Less work more effect. Ouput will be binary compatibilities with Linux target :direct_hit:

[chiddekel]

On Visual studio Linux output with wine source instruction look like that:

To create a Linux binary using Visual Studio and the Wine source library for an existing codebase, you can follow these steps:  1. **Install Visual Studio and Wine**:    - Ensure Visual Studio is installed on your Windows machine.    - Obtain the Wine source library, which allows Windows applications to run on Linux.  2. **Install Visual C++ for Linux Development in Visual Studio**:    - In Visual Studio, go to Tools -> Get Tools and Features.    - Install the “Visual C++ for Linux Development” extension.  3. **Open Your Existing Project in Visual Studio**:    - Open your existing codebase in Visual Studio.  4. **Configure Project for Linux Target**:    - Right-click on your project in the Solution Explorer.    - Go to Properties -> Configuration Properties.    - Set the target system to Linux. Specify the connection information for a Linux machine or VM where the compilation will occur.  5. **Integrate Wine Library**:    - Include the Wine headers and link against the Wine libraries in your project settings.    - Ensure compatibility with the target Linux system.  6. **Modify Code for Linux Compatibility (if necessary)**:    - Review and modify your code to ensure it is compatible with Linux and the Wine environment. This might include conditional compilation, different API calls, etc.  7. **Build the Project**:    - Compile the project in Visual Studio. It uses the connected Linux machine or VM for the compilation process.  8. **Testing on Linux**:    - Test the compiled binary on a Linux environment to ensure it works correctly with Wine.  9. **Debug and Optimize**:    - Use Visual Studio's remote debugging features to debug any issues on the Linux machine.  10. **Deploy the Linux Binary**:     - Once you're satisfied with the testing, you can deploy the Linux binary.  Keep in mind that the performance and compatibility of your application can vary significantly depending on how well Wine supports the specific Windows APIs your application uses. Extensive testing in the target environment is crucial to ensure functionality.

[Matthias.G.ermany]

In the past Microsoft has an offline os without any data collecting which runs on everything.

Now we have a data cloud collector os full of advertisement, which will go completely in the cloud in the near future. At 2025 many working systems will be electronic waste, or you have to pay.

Adobe has not to support all Linux distributions. They should concentrate on one  LTS distribution like Ubuntu 22.04. which Linux they will support is totally equal for me. But I want to leave Microsoft. But I can't because of Microsoft big brother Adobe.

How big are the performance lost of running Adobe cloud in wine?

Never heard that it will work. Is it possible to see a video howi have to install and how it perform?

[roc97007]

My understanding is that earlier versions of Photoshop and Lightroom will work in Wine, but the current versions (Adobe CC) will not. I've read that there's no way to make it work in Wine and perhaps that was deliberate.

I agree with you, any version of Linux will do. The fact that Linux is fragmented is a spurious argument. It doesn't matter. Whatever version of Linux Adobe would port to, we would come to them.

Again, Adobe CC is a niche product. Arguing that it needs to only support the most popular operating systems (osx and windows) is specious, as the REASON we professional photographers are ON osx or windows is BECAUSE that's where Adobe CC runs. Adobe has cause and effect reversed.

My Adobe CC machine is essentially a console. I don't do anything else with it. And as such, it doesn't matter how general-purpose the OS is.

Ron

[D Fosse]

I really don't understand why this dicussion keeps rolling on and on, repeating itself over and over, when the answer has been so clearly stated by Adobe officials, again over and over.

• Photoshop for Linux will happen the day it makes business sense to do so. Until that day, it will not happen.

There isn't anything else to say. That's the one and only answer.

[chiddekel]

Nope. This is not true it's false. More OS like Fedora or Ubuntu it's expand as whole of Portfolio of product. Is rather question how hard would be target :direct_hit: Linux and if would be even harder to maintenance that production Version of this linux build target :direct_hit: If after setup Software chained to Linux output - will be effortless to maintain that already would Adobe has that product. As was said before - they has supper taletned people on board - so it's only tech issue of library and compile stack.Why? Ideal situation will be changes/fix/maintain occure version to version on main codebase and output target set Linux do not make additional Linux related bug.

[davescm]

'Nope. This is not true it's false'

Of course it is true. If Adobe thought it was financially worth doing they would do it.

As evidenced by the comments from staff - to date they do not. Remember business sense means , porting, maintaining, compatibility with the future roadmap, training developers and support staff, integration with other Adobe products...etc  The most important of all is Return on Investment, without that, there is no business case.

Business sense and technical difficulty are not the same thing.

Dave

[Simon_NobaraLinuxWithKDE]

Accept their answer; pick up your alternative workflows, of which there are many. Adobe wants to do it's own thing.

Covering demographic as a means to stay relevant in the new age of FOSS accelerated by AI is a lot to comprehend.

Let it go.

[chiddekel]

Nope still false. Try to imagine that select target and resolve issues on one codebase with multiple target :direct_hit:.

 

But was mentioned that more na more function go to AI and web so Problem more and more fadeout because of this.

[chiddekel]

Yep. There is web standards ( like WebGL, WebAssembly, etc) and AI and it's push out old aproche to make applications in FOSS and Commercial licence that is now  not Tightly stich to only that or this OS.

[chiddekel]

 

[default26j8ao5zojx7]

I wish you guys would stop blowing-up my mailbox with this rediculous fantasy.  Adobe won't port to Linux because Linux users won't stand for this overbearing, subscription-based collection of bloatware taking over their entire system.  If the alternative tools already available for Linux aren't good enough they will gladly devote a Windows PC or Mac to Adobe to keep this crapware off their Linux box.

[Rangel R Morais]

i just use windows because of adobe software, i hate windows.

[Lumigraphics]

You built a machine that crashes twice a day? Congratulations on that...

[Lumigraphics]

Quit whining and just get a Mac.

[kglad]

or a properly built pc.  i've never see a bsod since owning my current computer (~4+ years).

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

and this is why this thead is supposed to be locked.

[chiddekel]

I'm a, agree -  The interoperability that brought by AI ( that started in mass-scale ) last year and web technology stanadard - brings good news to provaide Desktop/Mobile/PaaS/SaaS to Any OS

[davescm]

It would be wrong to move current discussions into a locked thread.

Dave

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@davescm per team this thread is to remain locked. The subject has a definitive answer.

[jane-e]

kglad wrote: i think it's wrong to move and amass posts like rhis thread

Are you saying you agree that the other thread should never have been merged into this one?

[zgRedka]

I understand that this has been introduced in 2011, and back then You did not plan to accommodate our requests.
Linux is not a minor OS any more. More Software developers should acknowledge that.
I am asking for LINUX version of Photoshop because if You already have macOS version which is based on UNIX, and guess what? Linux is also based on UNIX.
Many people migrate to Linux now, and we should be able to have that choice too. Unfortunately, my patience with Windows will end soon, and that means I will migrate to Linux without Adobe apps, which will force me to cancel my subscription.

[davescm]

It is valid to raise a request, but Adobe staff have confirmed they have no plans to introduce a version for Linux

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-ideas/p-provide-support-for-linux-2011/idc-p/1433...

Dave

[zgRedka]

Hi Dave, that was 13 years ago. Lets see what they say now.