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April 8, 2025
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A stand alone "Organizer" for PSE

  • April 8, 2025
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Hello everybody

Can we expect one day to have an application able to use the catalogs created by PSE (and why not commun for all  Adobe photos apps) ? Such an app  could be distributed to members of families or communities and woul allow them  to benefit from the "Organizer" features :  sort off  "search and read only" without having to buy the whole PSE. I have worked thousand of hours to document more than 50000 family history  photos (dates, locations, persons, events, tags of any sorts ..) and fear that all work will become unexploitable some day . 

On commercial side for Adobe, it could be profitable because of the large number of potential sells despite a cheaper price per unity. And in fact only few users of the catalogs would be ready to buy a full license of PSE. 

Is this wish shared by the communnity ? Has Adobe any position on this ? 

 

Alain

Correct answer Greg_S.

Glenn may be right.  But plenty of people are using software to create geneology tables of their relatives. And that software has the capability of including photos.

 

The real problem, Alain, is that there is no uniformity in how software treats all of the metadata information that you have built up in the Organizer.  So, even if you write the metadata to the file (using Ctrl+W), other software may not read it correctly.  And, of course, we have no control over how software and metadata will change in the future.  Glenn is not a big user of the Organizer, so his views are colored by his own use.  I, on the other hand, have been using it rigorously since it was first introduced as a free program known as Photoshop Album.  I currently have 250,000 photos in my catalog.  So, I totally support what you are saying.  I may even suggest it to Adobe.

 

But I have another possible solution for you.  Currently, Adobe offers its Bridge program for free.  I have never really been a big fan of the program because it is more of a browser than a database.  But it may suit your needs.  I just downloaded it and saw that it allows you to search folders for keyword tags, for example.  I'm sure it also allows searches for other metadata such as dates. 

 

I would hate to be Gary searching through Glenn's files since there is no uniformity in how they have been organized.  But Bridge would probably offer some assistance.  😁

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Greg_S.
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April 8, 2025

Glenn may be right.  But plenty of people are using software to create geneology tables of their relatives. And that software has the capability of including photos.

 

The real problem, Alain, is that there is no uniformity in how software treats all of the metadata information that you have built up in the Organizer.  So, even if you write the metadata to the file (using Ctrl+W), other software may not read it correctly.  And, of course, we have no control over how software and metadata will change in the future.  Glenn is not a big user of the Organizer, so his views are colored by his own use.  I, on the other hand, have been using it rigorously since it was first introduced as a free program known as Photoshop Album.  I currently have 250,000 photos in my catalog.  So, I totally support what you are saying.  I may even suggest it to Adobe.

 

But I have another possible solution for you.  Currently, Adobe offers its Bridge program for free.  I have never really been a big fan of the program because it is more of a browser than a database.  But it may suit your needs.  I just downloaded it and saw that it allows you to search folders for keyword tags, for example.  I'm sure it also allows searches for other metadata such as dates. 

 

I would hate to be Gary searching through Glenn's files since there is no uniformity in how they have been organized.  But Bridge would probably offer some assistance.  😁

alainm44Author
Inspiring
April 8, 2025

Thanks Greg, for  your support and for the suggestion about loadind tags in the Metadata,  a feature I was not familiar with... 

I have started investigations  and  came acroos a comment from MichelBParis :  "  I'm getting old and I doubt my childdren will use the organizer like me in a few years. My personal and family library will be much more accessible to any other management program with the metadata written..."

Being probably even older than him ( 80+) , I fully agree and it looks like a very good advice. I will try to get familiar with the feature to understand how it works.

A good  part of my photos comes from the times before digital caméra: scan from printed photos or diapositives and dont have any pertinent tags but those created in  the catalog with Organizer . Therefore  dates and locations  will be in fact just "personal tags" .  Not clear to me how persons id will be loaded, but I will start testing.

Again thanks for your support.

 

Alain  

 

Monte307
Inspiring
April 9, 2025

Just an observation, not a recommendation: my kids and grandkids came to visit the other day and they became very interested in perusing a box of old printed photos. Included in the box were some Civil War pictures of (presumably) an old ancestor.  No metadata except the occasional scribbling on the back of a photo.  As primitive and limited as printed photos are, it occurred to us some of these photos have survived intact and accessible for over 160 years.  Good luck finding any photos posted online today 160 years from now 🙂

Glenn 8675309
Legend
April 8, 2025

That will probably never happen-- why?  It would cost money.   The price of PSE has essentially not changed sincce day 1 version 1- $99.   I also can't image that there would be too many people who would be interested such a specific app.

The days of sitting around looking thru photo albums sipppin sweet tea are long gone.   Social media is how most folks share images now.    I doubt that people would enjoy sitting thru a database of images- regardless of the abililty to quickly find that picture of Aunt Edna from 1952....
 

Yeah Gary (One of my brothers), I got my stuff organized.   and this is how I think most of us actually organize our images and videos.