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December 16, 2016
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Consolidating scattered photo files into one big catalog?

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Short history: I've used PSE for many years for personal photo storage and management, from PSE2 way back when, up to a recent upgrade from 11 to 15. During that time, I've done many full backups to external drives (I never do incremental backups), gone through three or four Windows desktop PC and hard drive upgrades. I currently have about 24,000 images (about 150GB total file size) from 1997 to date, all under a single catalog but not all in a single main folder. After all these evolutionary hardware and software changes over the years (and partly through my climb up the learning curve about how PSE does file management), these 24,000 catalog images now are stored in at least half a dozen folders scattered all over my hard drive. This shotgun image storage situation worries me that things can too easily get lost or deleted. I'd MUCH rather have a single giant file of all images, in a single catalog. Of course, all file or folder relocates/moves/renames, etc must be done within PSE, to avoid losing track of the images - which would be an unmitigated disaster. And I'm not sure PSE can even do bulk renames/moves of files...?

I don't want to "fix what ain't broke", but is there a simple, safe way to consolidate my 24,000 image files (currently stored in six or eight separate folders) into a single newly-named folder and catalog? Is that even smart? Or am I doomed at this point to continue down this path.

FWIW, I'm running Windows 10 on a three year old HP Athlon P7, AMD A10 3.4 GB 64-bit processor, 12GB RAM, and a 1 TB drive. The machine, although relatively old, seems to run PSE15 plenty fast enough for my purposes. I use external 1 and 2 TB USB drives for frequent backups.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks.

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Correct answer MichelBParis

So long as you are doing frequent backups, you are safe.

Good idea : having your various folders under a single master folder and a single catalog.

Bad idea : Having all your 24,000 image files in a single folder.

Of course, all file or folder relocates/moves/renames, etc must be done within PSE, to avoid losing track of the images - which would be an unmitigated disaster. And I'm not sure PSE can even do bulk renames/moves of files...?

Yes Elements can do that safely.

The simplest and fastest way is to restore your last backup to a new custom destination. You create a new folder as the destination and restore. That creates a copy of both your catalog and media file trees. The original data is always available. Even if your files were scattered over several different master folders or even different drives, those will be restored under the new master folder. And that is highly recommended.

Storing all your files in a single giant folder is not really an advantage, and there are many risks, for instance duplicate file names in different folders. Whether in the explorer or in the organizer, moving files or subfolders will fail for that reason.

Renaming subfolders/folders is safer and much faster than moving.

Note that Elements lets you move a whole part of a folder tree to another master folder, but due to the above risks, it's recommended to do a backup first. So, why not simply do the restore to custom location?

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Legend
December 17, 2016

So long as you are doing frequent backups, you are safe.

Good idea : having your various folders under a single master folder and a single catalog.

Bad idea : Having all your 24,000 image files in a single folder.

Of course, all file or folder relocates/moves/renames, etc must be done within PSE, to avoid losing track of the images - which would be an unmitigated disaster. And I'm not sure PSE can even do bulk renames/moves of files...?

Yes Elements can do that safely.

The simplest and fastest way is to restore your last backup to a new custom destination. You create a new folder as the destination and restore. That creates a copy of both your catalog and media file trees. The original data is always available. Even if your files were scattered over several different master folders or even different drives, those will be restored under the new master folder. And that is highly recommended.

Storing all your files in a single giant folder is not really an advantage, and there are many risks, for instance duplicate file names in different folders. Whether in the explorer or in the organizer, moving files or subfolders will fail for that reason.

Renaming subfolders/folders is safer and much faster than moving.

Note that Elements lets you move a whole part of a folder tree to another master folder, but due to the above risks, it's recommended to do a backup first. So, why not simply do the restore to custom location?

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November 20, 2020

You wrote: " The original data is always available."

I have used Elements going back to single number versions and have over 17 k images in my catalog scattered over many folders/sub-folders  on my hard drive.

I do a full back up to external drives weekly.

My problem is I have a  500 GB hard drive with only 10 GB free. 

     Is there enough head room to create a custom destination folder to restore to? 

I suspect much of my hard drive space problem is duplicate images.

     Is there an easy way to find duplicates and delete them?

Thank you for your many helpful posts.

Windows 10 Pro ver. 2004    i7  16GB RAM

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November 22, 2020

After checking to be sure everything is functional, How do I safely delete the data files on the computer HD to free up disk space?

Delete them from your Windows explorer.

PS: I have created several copies of the “My Catalog” on the computer which are obviously taking up disk space.

You can move them outside of your main C drive.

The restored catalog after your backup and restore will be a folder of the master destination folder you have created. When you have tested everything, you can delete the backed up catalog on C:

 


New issue: When I go to   File  >  Restore Catalog from HD,  I get a dialog box to “Locate the Backup File to Restore.”  When I select the HD  I get a message, “No items match your search”

It is looking for a Tally .tly extension.  When I search the drive, [see below] there is no .tly file although there are

61,333 Items contained in 105 GB.

The “Restore Catalog and files to”  allows me to select the “PSE Catalog (G:)” destination.

Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.