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CaroWalker
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March 13, 2017
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Infrared processing photoshop elements 15

  • March 13, 2017
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Trying to create infrared images with my Canon t2i and process in photoshop elements 15.

I have no experience processing raw images.

I successfully created several infrared images in my camera. When I import them to pse 15, the raw files have a red tone that was not on the camera image. I have searched several forums for processing infrared; many are helpful, but use photoshop, and so the options are not the same. For example, in one tutorial that i found, the solution is simply to use "auto tone" but the auto smart tone on pse 15 didn't yield the same result.

Mainly I'm frustrated that I can't find help for pse 15. there is no phone support available for this product and my internet searches all refer to photoshop processing. i would love to expand my knowledge of pse but don't find much beyond the basics.

i don't understand how organizer works, how raw images are processed.

i use mac sierra 10.12.3.

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    Participant
    April 10, 2017

    How are you setting your white balance in the camera? If you are trying to get color IR you need to use a custom white balance for this to work at all. I have found the best is to point the camera at sunlit green grass with the IR Filter on the lens. Once that is set you will see a shift in the colors that will make a more pleasing photo. In fact you could try using jpegs in PSE.  But as far as using PSE for post processing IR Raw files, it is just not possible. It will have to be Photoshop or Lightroom with a custom profile added.

    The second thing to remember is that if you are using a camera that is unconverted with a 720nm filter on the front all you can really do well is monochrome. Color IR will never look the way you want with that set-up. Most cameras that are sensitive to IR will produce pleasing Black and White IR in jpeg if the camera is set to monochrome. You can then work with the jpeg in PSE to get it the way you want.

    MichelBParis
    Legend
    April 10, 2017

    johnc92573346  wrote

    But as far as using PSE for post processing IR Raw files, it is just not possible. It will have to be Photoshop or Lightroom with a custom profile added.

    Why not?

    If you have created the DNG profile in the standalone Adobe DNG Profile editor, you have the same calibration tab in Elements as the one in the full Photoshop? There are suggested IR monochrome profiles.

    Participant
    April 10, 2017

    I will tell what, if you think it can be done go ahead and try. Step one: Red/Blue Channel Swap and you are dead in the water right there.

    MichelBParis
    Legend
    March 14, 2017

    CaroWalker  wrote

    Trying to create infrared images with my Canon t2i and process in photoshop elements 15.

    I have no experience processing raw images.

    I successfully created several infrared images in my camera. When I import them to pse 15, the raw files have a red tone that was not on the camera image. I have searched several forums for processing infrared; many are helpful, but use photoshop, and so the options are not the same. For example, in one tutorial that i found, the solution is simply to use "auto tone" but the auto smart tone on pse 15 didn't yield the same result.

    Mainly I'm frustrated that I can't find help for pse 15. there is no phone support available for this product and my internet searches all refer to photoshop processing. i would love to expand my knowledge of pse but don't find much beyond the basics.

    i don't understand how organizer works, how raw images are processed.

    i use mac sierra 10.12.3.

    One one hand, you are new with digital editing, on the other you are wanting to play with a very special effect that not one user in a thousand will ever want to use . To make things worse, the 'infrared' effect is not something natural in our viewing faculty, it's rather an interesting artistic effect requiring a good understanding of the physics of light and of our vision process.

    Let's be positive.

    Open an image you think would be enhanced by the process.

    Menu Enhance >> Convert to black and white, option infrared effect.

    That gives an idea of the result as a black and white infrared image (the most frequent use of infrared).

    CaroWalker
    Participating Frequently
    March 14, 2017

    Actually I've been digital editing for about 10 years. Took up photography again once kids were grown, and have been trying ever since to find my way back to the darkroom processes i enjoyed so much in the 70s. I did a lot of infrared, and hand tinted them.

    As I"m not a professional, I didn't see that spending enormous amounts of digital processing time, computer memory and battery life justified wading into RAW files. So I just haven't bothered.

    I did try your steps before...but the result isn't exactly what i have in mind. I'll have to keep digging on You tube. I knew that, I guess, but this forum was the only way to express my frustration with PSE as the forgotten stepchild of Adobe.

    I spent years learning iPhoto & PSE 8, only to have to start over again last year when apple dropped the program in favor of photos, and my pse 8 would no longer work on updated mac.

    If you were around during the 70s, you might relate to my frustration at how complicated things have become. While I marvel at the technology available in our homes, I do lament how much time I have to spend on trial and error since PSE comes with such scant support.

    Jeff Arola
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    March 14, 2017

    I have not converted my camera...shooting with a Canon t2i, with a Hoya R72 infrared filter.


    Have a look at this page

    https://www.lifepixel.com/photo-tutorials/infrared-photoshop-videos

    and these two videos

    Infrared RAW file white balance issues & solutions

    Editing Infrared Photos with a DNG Profile Editor, Lightroom, and Photoshop