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laykuly
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January 8, 2021
Question

Organizer import by capture date as opposed to file creation date

  • January 8, 2021
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Hello,

The import function sorts the elements by file creation date as opposed element capture date. In case the elements have been copied from a disk to another, they all have the same file creation date. So when importing, the result is that all elements have the same date in the catalog.

I want to import and sort by element capture date (date and time when the picture was actually taken). This information is embedded in the picture. Windows Photo can sort by picture capture date.

Can Organizer 2021 do that ?

For the moment I have a catalog with all picture dates set to january 7, 2021. I can't use it.

I have not found an aswer in the posts on the same subject. Many thanks for your help.

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MichelBParis
MichelBParis
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January 11, 2021

You don't answer my questions:

What's your import workflow, from which cameras/phones and to which computer (Mac or Win)?

The examples you are quoting seem to indicate that you are importing files on your computer which have the standard OS date fields; date_created and date_taken but not the date_taken (called differently depending on the platform, Mac or Win). Is there a valid date_taken in the files when you import them in your catalog? Are you importing from camera/card reader or from files already on your computer? How ?

 

 

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laykulyAuthor
Known Participant
January 12, 2021
Hello,


1. The workflow is as follows :


1. Iphone and Android phone=> (2) Google photo (cloud) => (3) transfer to D:\ drive on a pc running Win10 (download from the cloud) => (4) Import with Organizer 2021

Important: Organizer 2021 gets lost with the different dates but windows photo does not and identifies properly the picture_taken date (so step 4 works with Windows photo but not with Organizer 2021).

In step 3, the dates shown by win10 are correct, for example :

Créé le: 25/12/2020
Modifié : 7/01/2021 (Step 3 date)


1. Is there a valid date_taken in the files when you import them in your catalog?
Yes there is, the proof being that windows photo finds them; in win10 and in French, it is called "créé le", which is the picture_taken date.


1. Are you importing from camera/card reader or from files already on your computer? How ?

See above.

I hope it clarifies.

Thanks for your help.
MichelBParis
MichelBParis
Legend
January 19, 2021

I have another finding to share :

For the same series of photos (10 pictures taken in the same minute), some happen to have the right exif information in the catalog and some don't have any exif panel at all. In the second case, the catalog uses the windows "modifié le" date as the picture taken date.

Is there any way to check the exif information of a picture without using the Adobe PSE ?


I have another finding to share :

For the same series of photos (10 pictures taken in the same minute), some happen to have the right exif information in the catalog and some don't have any exif panel at all. In the second case, the catalog uses the windows "modifié le" date as the picture taken date.

I have no explanation for that.

MichelBParis
MichelBParis
Legend
January 9, 2021

The organizer only knows and uses capture dates. So the question is what is the source of the dates in your files?

There has been reports of the downloader reading files where the capture dates (date_taken) has already been changed in the files by the creation dates.

What's your import workflow, from which cameras/phones and to which computer (Mac or Win)?

If you download files to your computer via the OS or another downloader, do the capture dates appear as correct? Then if you import from 'files and folders', does the organizer show the right dates?

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laykulyAuthor
Known Participant
January 11, 2021
Hello,

Many thanks for your reply.

I'll give you a few examples of the issues I encounter:

All pictures are stored in a folder on hard disk and imported as such:

Example 1:

Date created : January 1st 2021
Date modified: January 8th 2021 (import date)
In Organizer 2021: date Januarys 1st 2021
However, the picture is not displayed at all in the right place; its is far below in the pile.


Example 2:

Dated created: December 31st 2020
Date modified: January 8th 2021 (import date)
In Organizer 2021: date December 31st 2020
However the picture is not displayed in the right place.

Example 3:

Dated created: December 31st 2020
Date modified: January 8th 2021 (import date)
In Organizer 2021: date January 7th 2021
And the picture is not displayed in the right place.

Example 4:

Dated created: December 25th 2020
Date modified: January 8th 2021 (import date)
In Organizer 2021: December 25th 2020
And the picture is not displayed in the right place: as the first picture in the catalog !

So to me I don't see any logical pattern, I don't understand how Organize 2021 handles dates and displays in the catalog.

I would be so grateful if you could help me as my catalog is not usable as it is.

Best regards,
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    laykulyAuthor
    Known Participant
    January 11, 2021
    I'm doing another test at the moment:

    In the catalog I have the following picture :

    Date 26/10/2020

    I do a search by metadata on the capture date 26/10/2020. Void (no result).

    Many thanks for your help.
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