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Adobe Premiere 2024 - very slow encoding

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October 30, 2023
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Duration of my project is just 3min 16s. It is 4K 60fps

My CPU in Intel I9 9900K OC@4.7GHz

I changed only 3 very basic parameters:

- Color

- Lighting

-Temperature and Tint

Encoding of my project is very slow even without changing resolution and framerate. It takes 2h for single pass encoding. At the same time my CPU usage is relatively low.

https://youtu.be/g0ve_2xkaKU

It is normal? Why is it so slow?

2h for 3min clip!!!!

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Francisca57

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The frequent long renderings have made me give up on Premiere Elements before. Now back to see if things have may changed, as I now have a much more powerful computer and Windows 11 Pro, but so far, added an effect and it starts to struggle and had to render. Ridiculous or what? Still on the trial version! Used Filmora without hardly ever rendering, just they charge for most of the effects and transitions and have other problems with much advertised features that they are still developing but you pay the full price for! Also Premiere Elements does not seem to have any customer or technical service. Not good....

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default5kheq1d9rilh

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I e been using Power Director 365. While it’s not perfect, it’s quite fast, offers lots of fast effects (if not too many). Compared to Adobe Premier, it’s cheaper, and much faster. My only complaint is that they constantly put out updates that are either not very useful, or sometimes break what had been working fine. But again, overall, leagues better.
Mark Erskine

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Francisca57

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Many thanks, Mark, I really appreciate the advice and it is actually on my list. Trying to do this all on my own, not being technical at all and most of the software being so bad has been a nightmare. I am going to show this version of Premier Elements to the friend who owns the two versions I worked with in the past to see if he agrees with me that this version is completely watered down. A question would be, whether this is because it is a trial version but I don't think so. I think that it was the 2023 that I tried on my windows computer (before I was using Apple), and it was so slow and rendering so much that I lost the will to live and therefore went with Filmora, which suits my needs to a T, but is rubbish on many aspects and now you kind of buy a house without windows and doors and if you want those too you have to pay more than yhou paid for the house, so to speak, as they still tell you that they offer you over 15 million of the both of them but when you get there there are now maybe a handful. I got my money back from them. Final Cut Pro was a nightmare for sync voice because of the magnetic timeline that does not allow you to leave gaps and buil up the video as you wish. So now back searching. Downloaded the free DaVinci Resolve. In the past I tried it and it wasn't bad, similar timeline as the other ones, now it is a complete learning curve. I know all about the updates, which usually do more harm than good. Crazy!!!!

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billgoolsby

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I too make lots of 4K 60fps videos, and I switched to Powerdirector 365. The rendering time is unbelieveable compared to APE, and you can export in HEVC.
I have to say I'm so disappointed in PE 2024. I was hoping Adobe would really add much more AI and more features.
I've used Premier Elements since the first version, and became very fluent, but ever since last year, when they removed features, I bit the bullet and started using PowerDirector 365. The annual subscription costs LESS than Premiere Elements, and it blows Adobe Elements away. I think best overall would be the Adobe Premier Pro, but I realize that is not for everyone, and too expensive, but the PowerDirector 365 subscription is almost as good as Adobe Premier Pro for a cheaper price than Adobe's Elements!! PowerDirector 365 has thousands of music tracks, full access to their stock libraries, and now that I have gotten use to it, I believe the learning curve was much easier since it is much more intuitive than elements. Plus, with the subscription, you get updates and added titles, overlays, and much more almost monthly. The De-noise AI, Dialog AI, Text to Speech for subtitles are much more advanced than Premiere Elements. I just wish Adobe had added more to elements. It was always my got-to video editor, but sadly not anymore. This is not a plug for Cyberlink lol, but even with the color adjustments, lighting, and other effects that I use as well, my 4K 60fps 68bit 30 minute videos render in about 15 mins. You might want to give it a try? That's what I did and glad I switched.

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default5kheq1d9rilh

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billgoolsby- I'm curious if your experience with PowerDirector is with MP4 input of 4K at 60 fps. Clearly I've hit a max wall with APE, and wondering if PowerDirector is built for this. I've looked at their website, and under stats, it "says" it can handle it, but frankly- APE never states it can't handle it.

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billgoolsby

Participating Frequently

It is not a problem at all in PD. I use a GoPro Hero11 and record at the highest settings. 4K/60fps (3840X2160 59.94 fps at 186 kbps) mp4's are not a problem. I import over 100 of these video files into my single Powerdirector project at one time, and it doesn't have any problem. I create 20-30 min 4K videos that are about 20GB's when I'm done, then I can export in any codec (including HEVC) and it is so much faster (about 15-20 mins.) Granted, I have a beefy computer (Dell XPS 8950), and I use the NVIDIA card exceleration that is built into Powerdirector.
I'm not trying to give Adobe PE a bad rap, I used it for many many years, and I could edit so quickly because I knew it like the back of my hand, but last year they removed some of the third party plugins, and I just got tired of installation problems, and other issues. I started experimenting with PowerDirector after all the good reviews, and I found myself using both. I would edit the video sound files in Powerdirector because it has incredible wind denoise and speech dialog enhancment AI's, then save the audio and import it into Adobe PE. Once APE 2024 came out, there just wasn't enough change to make me want to buy it again. I mean dark mode? That's a feature that should have been added years ago. So, I bit the bullet and dove into PD and it is so intuitive, I picked it up really quick. I also got tired of the same limited music tracks in Adobe PE. With Powerdirector, I have thousands of royalty free music tracks, templates, plugins, effects, etc. And, I get monthly updates of new sound effects, music tracks, templates, for cheaper ($55/annually) than I was paying Adobe. Just made sense for me anyway. One cool feature in Powerdirector is there is an AI that will turn all your speech into text and create your subtitles for you for close caption. Anyway, like I say, Adobe is a good product too, maybe I just grew out of its limited features, and decided to go with something that offered more features for less cost.

I mean... look what you get for $55 a year for the 365 version! Then, they always offer me the same deal to renew, but even at $75/year, it is cheaper than Adobe Premier Elements!

https://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdirector-video-editing-software/comparison_en_US.html

https://www.pcmag.com/categories/video-editing

Powerdirector is more comparable to Adobe Premier Pro, not to Premiere Elements. Adobe Premiere Pro would be the best, but I'm not going to pay that much for what I do, but that would be my most prefered editor.

All my videos here I made with Adobe PE over the years with the exception of the last 3 videos, that are in 4K, I made with Powerdirector.
https://www.youtube.com/@TravelNationalParks

Everyone is going to tell you something different. I just wanted the most for my money, and Powerdirector has evolved into a pretty good editor.

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Steve Grisetti

Legend

Something is definitely wrong there. With your rig is should take less than the running time to encode a movie.

What is the format and resolution of your original footage and what device created it?

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tomek398Author

Inspiring

Here are details for my input files. They are from GoPro 8

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main@L6@Main
Codec ID                                 : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 17 s 34 ms
Bit rate                                 : 101 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.203
Stream size                              : 204 MiB (100%)
Title                                    : GoPro H.265
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : 2016-01-11 00:52:53 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2016-01-11 00:52:53 UTC
Color range                              : Full
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 17 s 24 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Nominal bit rate                         : 48.0 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 392 KiB (0%)
Title                                    : GoPro AAC  
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : 2016-01-11 00:52:53 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2016-01-11 00:52:53 UTC

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Steve Grisetti

Legend

Premiere Elements can only work natively with 3840x2160 that is 30 fps. GoPro footage at 60 fps is known to cause the program to bog down. The fact that it's also HEVC video is adding to the issue.

If this is the video you're planning to edit, I'd recommend you check out a different editor. Premiere Pro for instance. I think you'll find editing this footage with Premiere Elements is going to end up a very frustrating experience.

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