APE2021: Problem with H.265 files

[tomek398]

Hi 

I have a problem with H.265 files. I have a lot of files compressed with Nvidia NVENC to H.265 format with Handbrake. This is how I archive my GoPro videos. 

I can add H.265 files to PE2021 and place them on the timeline. I can even play them, however, when I move timeline marker a few times (3-4) the whole program freezes. I don't see any error message. It is just not responsing.   I need to end the process in the Windows. 

Other than that, I have no issues with APE2021 

Windows is playing H.265 without any problems.

[Ann Bens]

Elements 21 might not be optimized to use the Nvidia NVENC H.265 format.

H.265 is a tricky format to edit. Massive compression. Need a beefy machine to decode.

[tomek398]

Is APE2023 better in that respect? When is relase of APE2024?

[Steve Grisetti]

Version 2023 is not likely to do the job better.

As for version 2024, those who know aren't allowed to say. We'll have to see if this issue is addressed in this next version.

[tomek398]

Thanks for comment

I'll wait for APE2024. 

H.265 is not a new format so it should be fully supported. I hope they will also add hardware support for encoding. 

[Ann Bens]

Playing video on the computer with a video Player is a total different ball game than editing the same video with editing software.

H.265 will always be heavily compressed and a pita to edit.

[tomek398]

I know that, but still, h.265 is on the list of supported formats. Besides, the program is not just slow. It is unresponsive which means there is some problem with that format. 

[tomek398]

Supported file formats in Adobe Premiere Elements

[Steffen Roller]

don't hold your breath :-(.

[Steffen Roller]

I can't edit H.265 in APE2023, very disappointed. It was my main reason for upgrading from 2018. I can edit with Movavi and Windows Clipchamp and what have you. The official (I think very lame) recommendation is to recode into H.264, edit and the export again. I purchased two 16gb hard disks to make room for my GoPro footage. I'm not impressed. All the talk about "it's a complicated format, needs a lot of hardware" - yes, it might be complicated, and yes I do have good hardware. </rant>

[John T Smith]

I don't edit that codec, but I have read other messages talking about a $0.99 codec you can buy from Microsoft that MAY make it possible to edit in PrElements... do you have that purchased codec?

[tomek398]

Yes, I did it and that is why I can import h.265 files to APE. I can even play them after puting files on the timeline.  The programs starts be unresponsive after I move the timeline marker. 

[Steffen Roller]

That didn't work for me, nor did it for many others. YMMV.

[John T Smith]

Hardware details please...

Not H.265 codec, but I have tested 4K files on my computer and had zero problems

You don't need the same components I have, but you do need to provide details

For example... What I have, with ZERO problems

Windows 11 Pro 64bit version 22H2 

Premiere Elements 2021 upgraded to version 2021.4

Intel i9-10900k in Motherboard ASUS Prime Z490 P

64Gig Ram and GTX 1650 MSI-GeForce-128-Bit-Graphics with 4 Gig video ram

nvidia STUDIO driver version 511.09 (NOT the Gaming driver)

motherboard automatically turned integrated Intel video off when installed GTX

TEAMGROUP 512Gig SSD for Windows and programs and usual MS Office Documents files

500Gig SSD Temporary work files and output when creating new video files

1T SSD Video and sound files from camera and other sources

[tomek398]

I have zero problems with 4K files. Everythings work well when editting h.264 format. 

Windows 10

Studio Drivers

9900K

32 GB RAM

4060 8GB VRAM

3x SSD

Intergated Intel GPU is turned OFF

[Steffen Roller]

Lucky you! 🙂

What are "Studio Drivers"?

[tomek398]

[Ann Bens]

I have zero problems with 4K files. Everythings work well when editting h.264 format. 

By @tomek398

4K is a resolution, h264 is a codec.

[tomek398]

I know that......

Have you read my first measage? I clearly said that "I have a problem with H.265 files" I did not say that I have problem with 4K files. 

Then I showed that my computer is able to handle 4K files even encoded with H.265

https://youtu.be/ROwXIkvRqoU

However, APE2021 has issues with h.265 encoded with Handbrake. I don't know why. Is video file is corrupted or there are some isses with it, then, APE should give me some warning or maybe it shudn't even import it. 

[tomek398]

Someone else had similar problem before:

does Premiere elements support H.265 export? - Adobe Support Community - 11828818

[tomek398]

It seems that problem occurs with h.265 files converted with Handbrake. I don't know why

I imported 4K 60 fps H.265 video file to APE 2021 and everything works quite well on my computer 🙂  I have no idea why there are issues with files converted with Handbrake. Unfortunatelly I have many of them 😞 

https://youtu.be/ROwXIkvRqoU

[Ann Bens]

It is the codec you used

[tomek398]

In summary:

• There are some problems when editting videos converted to H.265 with HandBrake. Adobe Premiere Elements 2021 can import such videos but stops respondings when I try to edit  them.
• There are NO problems when I import and edit video files in H.265 format recorded directly by GoPro or converted to H.265 with AviDemux

I'd like to use HandBrake for conversion to H.265 because its very good options for batch conversion. 

I can play all files (directly from GoPro, converted with BandBrake and converted with AviDemux) without any issues using VLC player. 

I have no idea why Premiere has issues with files converted with HandBrake. 

HandBrake: Open Source Video Transcoder

Avidemux - Main Page (sourceforge.net)

[Ann Bens]

A VideoPLAYER us NOT the same as a videoEDITOR.

Gopro is not the same as Avidemux is not the same as Handbrake (has several different codec on board).

There are good codec for H.265 and there are lesser codec for H.265.

And second it all depends on the optimization of the edit software for a particular codec.

Try the default codec

[tomek398]

Gopro is not the same as Avidemux is not the same as Handbrake (has several different codec on board).

There are good codec for H.265 and there are lesser codec for H.265.

How will I know which codec is 'good' for current and future version of Adobe Premiere Elements?

I don't understand that. It says h.265 is supported format for Adobe Premiere Elemets:

Supported file formats in Adobe Premiere Elements

It doesn't say anything about various 'types' of H.265

If there are some issues with particular video file, APE should give me a error message or similar, that this file is not supported and why.