Project settings using 120fps video clips

[robertb15766851]

I video high school football games and create great highlight videos of the games.  Slow motion is an important tool for these highlight videos.  I am using Adobe Premiere Elements 2022.

I just purchased a Sony ZV-E10 Camera which will record in XAVC S HD (I think this is a Sony form of MP4), 1920 x 1080, 120p. 

When I import a clip into the project, the project settings are automatcially set up as:

- Editing Mode:  AVCHD 1080p square pixel

- Timebase: 59.94 frame/second

-Frame size:  1920 x 1080

- Display Format: 60fps Drop Frame Timecode

Having a Display Format of 120 fps is not an option in Adobe Premiere Elements 2022.

What issues will I encounter becuase I am using the 120fps video clips?  Will exporting the video be an issue bucuase the frame reate does not match the 120fps clips that I will be using?

I prefer to use the 120fps because when slowing down the clips in Premiere Elements, I don't want the end result to be choppy which has happened from time to time in the past when I used 60fps clips.

Will using the 120fps clips create any issues for longer videos (20 minutes to 30 minutes long)?  For the teams, I sometimes create complete season highlight videos that can be up to 30 minutes long.

Thanks.

[Ann Bens]

Elements does not have project settings for 120fps.

What issues will I encounter becuase I am using the 120fps video clips? Will exporting the video be an issue bucuase the frame reate does not match the 120fps clips that I will be using?

How about doing some trial and error. Best way to find out.

Are these clips really 120 fps or captured at 120 fps and written to card as 59.94?

[robertb15766851]

Hello Ann,

Thank you for your response.  I really appreciate it.  Per your question about is the clip being captured at a 120fps frame rate and written to the card at 59.94fps, based on what I see, it is being written to the card as 119.88fps.  See image below.  Also, click here to see the techical data on the Sony ZV-E10 camera that I purchased.  Just click on "Specifications above the photo of the camera.

I have done a very quick trial run to see what happens if I insert a 120fps frame rate file and it seems to work fine.  And, when I  slow down to the max amount using the "Time Remapping" feature, any studdering is pretty much non-existant.  But, at the end of football season, I plan on creating a video that will encoupas the best plays from 10 or 12 games which ultimatley will mean 60 to 100 clips over about 20 minutes.  Will I run into a problem if I have probably 75% or 80% of the clips be a frame rate of 120FPS when the prject is set up for 60FPS.

Further what are the drawbacks from setting up a project with the wrong frame rate?  For example, Let's say that I film 24fps but set up the project as 60fps (or vice versa).  What is the negative that will happen?  There must be some unfavorable outcome otherwise they would not have the ability to set up a frame rate in the software.

Sorry for my lack of knowledge. I am a dad with enough knoledge and desire to create really cool football highlight videos but I really don't know much about the technical aspects.

Thanks,

Rob

[Ann Bens]

If you want slow motion you never film in 24 fps and certainly no football matches with fast movements.

Normally 60 fps will do but if you want slow motion then go for the 120 fps.

Unfortunately, I cannot predict the outcome of all those different framerates because I live in PAL-land, and we only have 25 and 50 (and 100).

Back to trial and error.

[robertb15766851]

OK, thanks for the reply.  If anyone else knows that answer to my question about what happens to a Premiere Elements project when the frame rate (in Premiere Elements calls it "Display Format" in Project Settings) is set up incorrectly.  I am filming in 120fps but Premiere Elements only allows me to set up the project in 60fps. In fact, when I add the media to the project in the first clip, Premiere Elements automatically assigns "60fps Drop-frame Timecode." Will I run into a problem?  Forget about my filming in 120fps, what if I filmed in 60fps and mistakenly set up the project as 24fps (or vice versa).  What problems would arise?  I have seen a Youtube video created by Steve Grisetti but he just says that problems may happen but doesn't get into any real detail absout what problems may arise.

One other question, what is "Drop-frame Timecode and what is Non-Drop-frame Timecode?"

I would love to hear the answer to this question.

Thanks

[Bill Sprague]

" I have seen a YouTube video created by Steve Grisetti but he just says that problems may happen"

Yes.  Once you go beyond typical, standard camera footage there is a risk that Premiere Elements will stall.  You can only resolve your question with trial and error experimentation.  You may conclude that you need other, more expensive, software.