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White balance and ISO controls for ProRes RAW.

Forum|Forum|5 years ago
December 17, 2020
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Nikon released an update for the Z6 today that enabled metadata for WB and ISO in ProRes RAW. FCPX already has support for this but Premiere does not.

When will this be coming?

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demetrisag

Known Participant

4 years later...

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Jordan Fish

Participating Frequently

The best time for Adobe to complete their implementation of Prores Raw was well over a year ago. The second best time is now. We know these adjustments can be made. It is quite simply about exposing a Kelvin slider to the user. Seriously disappointed by the hold up as I shoot more projects in this format. If I have to use Final Cut Pro X just to perform this basic adjustment then I'll have to also consider leaving Premiere entirely.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Please go to their Premiere Pro UserVoice system, search for the ProRes RAW posts, and upvote them. Come back here, post a link, we'll all go over an do so.

Marketing & Experience is actually the part of Adobe management that has the most control over what gets done in any app. And they are well 'above' the product teams ... and work by divining via the religion of Metrics what we users truly, deeply need, not what we merely, in our mistaken view, want.

Ahem. You may notice sarcasm there ... 😉

And the only way we can generate metrics for them is that UserVoice system. All posts there are logged an an engineer into the system, and collated and passed on up to the all-knowing M&E people.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Jordan Fish

Participating Frequently

Thanks Neil, You're of course completely right. I've already voted but I dropped a comment as well. Here is the direct link for anyone who can't find it in the list. ProRes RAW ISO, white-balance and tint controls

Jordan

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Yue Xiang Aaron5C80

Known Participant

Seems like never ever. Boo to adobe!

R Neil Haugen

Legend

I've been in an around PrR-RAW threads on a number of forums for different apps & cameras being discussed.

PrR-RAW is still clearly not used by that many people compared to about any other format. Very few cameras or even external recorders allow it as an option. App support seems to vary from modest to zip.

The BlackMagic forums for instance have the same complaints. When is BM actually going to offer full support? Put it in cams and such? With much wailing and gnashing of teeth by PrR-RAW users, and little interest from the other users there.

There is one exception in apps, of course, the House editing app for Apple, FinalCut. Apple does seem to prefer to always be the exception.

Apple is not thought by many to be doing a good job of making their 'new' RAW format ubiquitous. Whether it's a fear of RED lawyers or simply cam makers finding it adding nothing to their 'stable' of user-valued tools, I don't know. I've seen tons of discussions on that subject.

I do know that very early after the announcement of PrR-RAW, Adobe did bring out the first public beta option for working with that format. But since, there's not been much change. I'm wondering if that isn't simply due to watching the usage numbers for that format among their users. If they're not seeing any spike there, well ... they'll probably keep their development dollars in things where there is user growth.

So the suggestion up above to go to the Adobe UserVoice system and upvote the PrR-RAW threads there is your best bet at the moment. It's the one way users with PrR-RAW can generate the metrics that the M&E people well up above the product people will see and use for their decision process. Those are the people who count such things ... and whose thought's count. Ahem.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Yue Xiang Aaron5C80

Known Participant

The prores raw format is growing right now, with many cameras that records prores raw and many external monitors that records prores raw. Sony A7SIII, A1, A7IV, they all can be connected to Atomos Ninja V for external Prores Raw recording.

The question here is, what is the target market for Adobe premiere pro? If I am not wrong, it is aimed at semi professionals. The Prores Raw might just be the incumbent format that takes over many other formats. Competitors such as davinci resolve (with its powerful BRaw compatibility) and final cut pro (prores raw) are making progress each day, and it seems like adobe is laid back on tools for semi professionals. When the request piles up, adobe will be losing market share already.

The lack of requests is probably due to:
1. Users who need to use Prores Raw can easily switch to other programs, because they are tech savy and have money to purchase multiple softwares to decode prores raw, or can work around this easily.
2. Because Prores raw is already partially supported, some people don't find the need to request for more.

But the next question here is, how can adobe premiere attract new users to use the software? This is just as important as addressing the other important needs of adobe users.

By partially supporting Prores raw, it's neither here nor there. It is very tempting for people to make switches or to purchase other softwares to complement the workflow, as such market shares will be eroded slowly until one day it becomes too late.

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DerrickM.

Participant

This is one of the factors that keeps me from switching over to use Premiere Pro as my primary editing tool over Final Cut. Final Cut X is great for working with ProRes and ProRes Raw files.

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defaultto4uep68vdy9

Participant

Yeah. I begin thinking to buy a mac!

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Yue Xiang Aaron5C80

Known Participant

Same here. It's taking far too long. Looks like adobe isn't listening to their paying customers.

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Hi Joe,

Can you and others on this thread upvote the bug report/feature request here? https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/41469118-prores-raw-iso-white-balance-and-tint-controls

I hope all on this post and those viewing the post can also upvote.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

Bruce Bullis

Community Manager

Unless Adobe has already made an announcement regarding a release date for a particular feature, it's very unlikely that we'll be able to provide specific dates.